July 11, 201313 yr 1. Eric Davis LF 2. Joe Morgan 2B 3. Frank Robinson RF 4. Johnny Bench C 5. Ken Griffey Jr. CF 6. Joey Votto 1B 7. Pete Rose 3B 8. Barry Larkin SS Not going to do you any good having Eric hitting in front of Joe.
July 11, 201313 yr RBI? Anyway I like Perez at 3rd and Votto at first. G-PA-AB-R-H-2B-3B-HR-RBI-SB-CS-SO-BB-BA-OBP-SLG-OPS Perez CIN (16 yrs) 1948 7630 6846 936 1934 339 56 287 1192 39 28 671 1306 .283 .346 .474 .820 Big Klu CIN (11 yrs) 1339 5403 4961 745 1499 244 23 251 886 20 8 406 292 .302 .357 .512 .869 Perez has the raw numbers in RBI, but I think it's more due to the fact that he played 5 more years than Klu, and his seasons' were longer. But, if you break it down on a per plate appearance, Ted has the advantage. Same thing with HR's. An interesting thing that I noted was this, Tony struck out twice as much as he walked...while Ted had over 100 more walks than strikeouts! I love Big Doggie dearly, but after looking at these stats, I really wish I could have seen Kluszweski play.
July 11, 201313 yr G-PA-AB-R-H-2B-3B-HR-RBI-SB-CS-SO-BB-BA-OBP-SLG-OPS Perez CIN (16 yrs) 1948 7630 6846 936 1934 339 56 287 1192 39 28 671 1306 .283 .346 .474 .820 Big Klu CIN (11 yrs) 1339 5403 4961 745 1499 244 23 251 886 20 8 406 292 .302 .357 .512 .869 Perez has the raw numbers in RBI, but I think it's more due to the fact that he played 5 more years than Klu, and his seasons' were longer. But, if you break it down on a per plate appearance, Ted has the advantage. Same thing with HR's. An interesting thing that I noted was this, Tony struck out twice as much as he walked...while Ted had over 100 more walks than strikeouts! I love Big Doggie dearly, but after looking at these stats, I really wish I could have seen Kluszweski play. There were 4 years in a row where Klu had more homeruns than strikeouts. It was very hard for me to leave him off of the all-time team.
July 11, 201313 yr Why is that? Morgan hated it when people tried to steal when he was batting. Griffey was given the red light many times when he got on base.
July 11, 201313 yr 1. Rose 3B ... I just can't put anyone else at leadoff. Rose was the epitome of a leadoff hitter, both statistically and the way he played. 2. Morgan 2B ... he had one of the most dominating runs of all time for any player in the mid-70's. 3. Robinson RF ... the worst trade in Reds history letting him go. He may be the 2nd best Red of all time, behind Bench. 4. Bench C ... greatest C of all time. 5. Griffey Jr. LF ... His stats as a Red are much better than many realize. 6. Davis CF ... it seems like a waste to have his speed here but I look at this as leadoff in the bottom of the order. 7. Larkin SS ... a great #2 type hitter so he fits as my bottom half 2 hole guy. 8. Perez 1B ... toughest decision on the team for me between him and Klu, or moving him to 3B and replacing one of my OF. My bottom lineup RBI guy to drive in the two above him. Plus, slowest guy on the team so put him here to keep the base paths flowing.
July 11, 201313 yr Morgan hated it when people tried to steal when he was batting. Griffey was given the red light many times when he got on base. He'd have to deal with it if I were managing. He liked to steal bases himself, only fair to let the guy in front of him do it. If he didn't like it I'd flip Morgan and Rose, it isn't like this lineup would have trouble scoring runs no matter where they hit.
July 11, 201313 yr 1. Rose 3B ... I just can't put anyone else at leadoff. Rose was the epitome of a leadoff hitter, both statistically and the way he played. 2. Morgan 2B ... he had one of the most dominating runs of all time for any player in the mid-70's. 3. Robinson RF ... the worst trade in Reds history letting him go. He may be the 2nd best Red of all time, behind Bench. 4. Bench C ... greatest C of all time. 5. Griffey Jr. LF ... His stats as a Red are much better than many realize. 6. Davis CF ... it seems like a waste to have his speed here but I look at this as leadoff in the bottom of the order. 7. Larkin SS ... a great #2 type hitter so he fits as my bottom half 2 hole guy. 8. Perez 1B ... toughest decision on the team for me between him and Klu, or moving him to 3B and replacing one of my OF. My bottom lineup RBI guy to drive in the two above him. Plus, slowest guy on the team so put him here to keep the base paths flowing. Did Jr. play LF?
July 11, 201313 yr What stats are you using? I just couldn't put Klu in front of Doggie. Perez: .48 runs per game; .99 hits per game; .17 doubles per game; .15 HR per game; .61 rbi per game and an OBPS of .820. Klu: .56 runs per game; 1.12 hits per game; .18 doubles per game; .19 HR per game; .66 rbi per game and an OBPS of .869. Plus Perez was in a MUCH better line-up with far more chances at RBI...and still....
July 11, 201313 yr Did Jr. play LF? He will on this team. I am picking the 3 best outfielders and going with it.
July 11, 201313 yr Perez: .48 runs per game; .99 hits per game; .17 doubles per game; .15 HR per game; .61 rbi per game and an OBPS of .820. Klu: .56 runs per game; 1.12 hits per game; .18 doubles per game; .19 HR per game; .66 rbi per game and an OBPS of .869. Plus Perez was in a MUCH better line-up with far more chances at RBI...and still.... And still no one considers a guy with these numbers: .62 runs per game; .85 hits per game; .18 doubles per game; .25 HR per game; .59 rbi per game and an OBPS of .900. Why taking the names off makes the exercise WAY more interesting. None of us can help our bias....yet McPhee and Pinson also get virtually no mentions.
July 11, 201313 yr Rose 3B Morgan 2B Robinson LF Bench C Griffey CF Votto 1B Dunn RF Larkin SS You have to switch Dunn and Robinson in the outfield.
July 11, 201313 yr You have to switch Dunn and Robinson in the outfield. Are you managing his team too?
July 11, 201313 yr Are you managing his team too? Pointing out an obvious oversight. I didn't tell him any other things he had to change. I am sure it was a mistake on his part that he will change.
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