I don't have any burr in my saddle. I apologize for portraying that view. I am just disappointed in the way the program is going; and right or wrong, I blame the coaching/leaders. It may not be fair but not much in life is. I know how hard those boys work and I would like for them to win a championship (as I'm sure the coaches would).

 

Here is a question for you. Who's fans should be more disgruntled - Beechwood's or Covington Catholic's?

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You bit and so did another, you know it's true, enough said.

One factor that needs to be strongly considered in comparing today to the 90's - the style of football. Evolution of the passing game, spread offenses, etc. makes winning today more difficult IMO. The style played by Beechwood in the 90's would not have the same results today. The best example of this is New Cath. Once Schneider changed the offense, they became much more of a power. This is the one area where I think Rash and his offensive coaches need to get better - passing the ball. We talk about halftime adjustments by coaches. My somewhat rusty memory tells me that Beechwood has crawled into their power game shell in the second half of games and that has hurt them as much as anything in the Mayfield games. The times have changed from great power football being all you need to win. History referred to Holy Cross winning that title. They won for one reason - their QB did an incredible job offensively in the playoffs with their passing offense. If you aren't effective throwing the ball, you aren't going to win a title.

 

Totally agree VOR, and I said so earlier in this thread. I want nothing more than Beechwood to get some more hardware. The coaches do need to recognize it is a new game and time and work on that passing game from the beginning of the year.

 

The pieces are in place. Coach Rash is wise enough-now set the tone and get it done!

Very, very little. Beechwood was beating everyone during that run. They were tougher than tough.

 

Thats just not true. Mayfield and Danville for sure would have taken some of those titles. If you think otherwise your delusional.

Also, if Beechwood's coaches are so poor, how come they get to the semi finals year after year even in down years? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the BGP playoff preview have Frankfort beating Beechwood in the regional finals? Most posters on this site had Frankfort whipping Beechwood in that game. Well, not only did Beechwood win, but it wasn't even close! Furthermore, everybody brings up the fact that Beechwood has never beaten Mayfield. This is true, they haven't, but nobody mentions the years of 2004, 2007, and 2008 when Beechwood won the state titles and thumped Danville, Frankfort, and Crittenden Co., all of whom beat Mayfield those years. Does that mean in those years Mayfield's coaching was not good? No, it means sometimes you have the horses and sometimes you don't. The fact that Beechwood continuously gets to the semis even when they aren't as talented is a credit to their coaching. If Mayfield would have gotten through to play Beechwood in those years then we wouldn't be having this conversation, because it would have been 3 losses for Mayfield!

Also, anybody wanting to debate just how big of an X Factor Jonathan Jackson was, need look no further than the 2012 state title game when he played virtually on one leg with a sprained MCL and Hazard dominated them on both sides of the ball. He was a shell of himself and Mayfield had no answers without him.

Lots of posters call the Mayfield squads of 07 & 08 down , I disagree. There was plenty of talent on those 2 squads but no leadership from it's players. Things got out of hand but I think the ship has been righted....time will tell

This thread is great for enjoyment ..... but ... there are a couple things that need to be addressed:

1. "Quicker Than Slick" does NOT = "quickslick" (anyone who knows me has a clue about my writing style .... and no ... I am a Conner graduate ... so I am not smart enough to fake it).

2. Even though no one is truly "Quicker Than Slick" .... I think that, whoever this is--is doing a great job.

 

I do want to be clear ... if anyone truly thinks this is me ... I am more than willing to provide my IP address ... or any other information to prove that fact (besides ... isn't this the time of the year where I would be spying on Conner practices?)

 

My last thought is this ... until WE (Everyone involved) beat Mayfield .... there is nothing to say.

 

I knew it wasn't you, I know your style and they are not as sarcastic as you.

This thread is great for enjoyment ..... but ... there are a couple things that need to be addressed:

1. "Quicker Than Slick" does NOT = "quickslick" (anyone who knows me has a clue about my writing style .... and no ... I am a Conner graduate ... so I am not smart enough to fake it).

2. Even though no one is truly "Quicker Than Slick" .... I think that, whoever this is--is doing a great job.

 

I do want to be clear ... if anyone truly thinks this is me ... I am more than willing to provide my IP address ... or any other information to prove that fact (besides ... isn't this the time of the year where I would be spying on Conner practices?)

 

My last thought is this ... until WE (Everyone involved) beat Mayfield .... there is nothing to say.

 

I think he/she messed up on the handle. Should have made it Slicker than Quick. You buy that one QS?

Lots of posters call the Mayfield squads of 07 & 08 down , I disagree. There was plenty of talent on those 2 squads but no leadership from it's players. Things got out of hand but I think the ship has been righted....time will tell

 

So they had talent on those two squads and you agree they weren't in a down year. I guess that equals poor coaching!

I don't know mayfields coaches, so I can't speak to how well they coach. I will say this, having a really really good player doesn't take much coaching.....

 

Now, as far as beechwoods coaches.....they are a really good group of guys that do an exceptional job at coaching. I don't think beechwood has been very good the last few years with the exception of 11. The 11 team I thought was pretty good but injuries at a small school are hard to over come. Rash is a fine coach that genuinely cares about his kids and program.

 

Before voice chimes in with something negative. I said before, I didn't think the 10 team was in NCC's league, but you see it all the time. A much better team takes the other team lightly and you get beat. In 11, as good as I thought beechwood was, a level playing field, both QBs healthy, NCC was better. Voice, you brought up the fact beechwoods QB was out. It's much easier to prepare all week to go with the backup then to lose your starter in the game and try to win with a backup QB that took no reps during the week. And the game was still close.....the 12 team was just not very good, had some good players but that's all.

 

They should be very good with the young guys they coming up.

So they had talent on those two squads and you agree they weren't in a down year. I guess that equals poor coaching!

 

There were some poor decisions made....we can just leave it at that.

I don't know mayfields coaches, so I can't speak to how well they coach. I will say this, having a really really good player doesn't take much coaching.....

 

Now, as far as beechwoods coaches.....they are a really good group of guys that do an exceptional job at coaching. I don't think beechwood has been very good the last few years with the exception of 11. The 11 team I thought was pretty good but injuries at a small school are hard to over come. Rash is a fine coach that genuinely cares about his kids and program.

 

Before voice chimes in with something negative. I said before, I didn't think the 10 team was in NCC's league, but you see it all the time. A much better team takes the other team lightly and you get beat. In 11, as good as I thought beechwood was, a level playing field, both QBs healthy, NCC was better. Voice, you brought up the fact beechwoods QB was out. It's much easier to prepare all week to go with the backup then to lose your starter in the game and try to win with a backup QB that took no reps during the week. And the game was still close.....the 12 team was just not very good, had some good players but that's all.

 

They should be very good with the young guys they coming up.

 

In 2010 NCC was definitely a better team, Beechwood played their best game all season that night and won one of the better high school games you will ever see. If they played 10 times NCC wins at least 7 of those. However,in 2011, Beechwood went into that game with a RB at QB and he got hurt in the 2nd quarter with a concussion. The second half was played with a 3rd string QB, and by not having Nussbaum available it weakened Beechwood on offense and defense. So their was no advantage gained by Hightchew going out because Beechwood lost Nussbaum almost immediately afterwards.

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Thats just not true. Mayfield and Danville for sure would have taken some of those titles. If you think otherwise your delusional.

 

Nope, beechwood was just that good. Nice way you debate though.

Nope, beechwood was just that good. Nice way you debate though.

 

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Both would have, Heck one did the first year they dropped down.