April 16, 201313 yr And before VOR or anybody else says easy to 2nd guess Spindoc will testify that I was calling for Arroyo to be lifted. It's true. He called the shot.
April 16, 201313 yr And before VOR or anybody else says easy to 2nd guess Spindoc will testify that I was calling for Arroyo to be lifted. Oh, I was too. Despite the low pitch count, we all know how fast it can turn with Arroyo ... and it did. That is where Dusty being a players manager hurts him. He wanted to give Arroyo every chance he could to perhaps finish the game and it almost cost the Reds the win.
April 16, 201313 yr Oh, I was too. Despite the low pitch count, we all know how fast it can turn with Arroyo ... and it did. That is where Dusty being a players manager hurts him. He wanted to give Arroyo every chance he could to perhaps finish the game and it almost cost the Reds the win. Arroyo is only effective 5 to six innings then he gets hammered. It's the same thing game after game. Why not make Arroyo a middle relief pitcher. You would have the starting pitcher throwing fast balls at 90 mph, have Arroyo come in for relief throwing his fastball at 80 to 85 mph. Then have Chapman come in to close at 100 mph, which after seeing Arroyo's fastball,100 mph would look more like 115 mph to the batters. FWIW. :popcorn:
April 16, 201313 yr Arroyo is only effective 5 to six innings then he gets hammered. It's the same thing game after game. Why not make Arroyo a middle relief pitcher. You would have the starting pitcher throwing fast balls at 90 mph, have Arroyo come in for relief throwing his fastball at 80 to 85 mph. Then have Chapman come in to close at 100 mph, which after seeing Arroyo's fastball,100 mph would look more like 115 mph to the batters. FWIW. :popcorn: Arroyo is a quality 200 inning eater. You aren't going to move that to the bullpen.
April 16, 201313 yr Author Arroyo is only effective 5 to six innings then he gets hammered. It's the same thing game after game. Why not make Arroyo a middle relief pitcher. You would have the starting pitcher throwing fast balls at 90 mph, have Arroyo come in for relief throwing his fastball at 80 to 85 mph. Then have Chapman come in to close at 100 mph, which after seeing Arroyo's fastball,100 mph would look more like 115 mph to the batters. FWIW. :popcorn: Not really true. Numbers are almost exactly the same... [TABLE=width: 500] [TR] [TD][TABLE=class: sortable stats_table] [TR] [TH=class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: center]I[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: left]Split[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]G[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]IP[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]ER[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip sort_default_asc hide_non_quals, align: center]ERA[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]PA[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]AB[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]R[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]H[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]2B[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]3B[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]HR[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]SB[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]CS[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]BB[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]SO[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center]SO/BB[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center]BA[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center]OBP[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center]SLG[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center]OPS[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]TB[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]GDP[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]HBP[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]SH[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]SF[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]IBB[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]ROE[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip hide_non_quals, align: center]BAbip[/TH] [TH=class: tooltip, align: center]tOPS+[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]1st inning[/TD] [TD=align: right]325[/TD] [TD=align: right]325.0[/TD] [TD=align: right]157[/TD] [TD=align: right] 4.35[/TD] [TD=align: right]1412[/TD] [TD=align: right]1260[/TD] [TD=align: right]172[/TD] [TD=align: right]339[/TD] [TD=align: right]63[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]44[/TD] [TD=align: right]21[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]115[/TD] [TD=align: right]199[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.73[/TD] [TD=align: right].269[/TD] [TD=align: right].337[/TD] [TD=align: right].440[/TD] [TD=align: right].777[/TD] [TD=align: right]554[/TD] [TD=align: right]25[/TD] [TD=align: right]19[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right].288[/TD] [TD=align: right]106[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]2nd inning[/TD] [TD=align: right]325[/TD] [TD=align: right]321.0[/TD] [TD=align: right]151[/TD] [TD=align: right] 4.23[/TD] [TD=align: right]1361[/TD] [TD=align: right]1237[/TD] [TD=align: right]164[/TD] [TD=align: right]331[/TD] [TD=align: right]71[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]46[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]87[/TD] [TD=align: right]253[/TD] [TD=align: right]2.91[/TD] [TD=align: right].268[/TD] [TD=align: right].321[/TD] [TD=align: right].441[/TD] [TD=align: right].762[/TD] [TD=align: right]546[/TD] [TD=align: right]26[/TD] [TD=align: right]14[/TD] [TD=align: right]14[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right].301[/TD] [TD=align: right]101[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]3rd inning[/TD] [TD=align: right]322[/TD] [TD=align: right]319.0[/TD] [TD=align: right]140[/TD] [TD=align: right] 3.95[/TD] [TD=align: right]1331[/TD] [TD=align: right]1216[/TD] [TD=align: right]152[/TD] [TD=align: right]308[/TD] [TD=align: right]74[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]43[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]87[/TD] [TD=align: right]221[/TD] [TD=align: right]2.54[/TD] [TD=align: right].253[/TD] [TD=align: right].309[/TD] [TD=align: right].427[/TD] [TD=align: right].735[/TD] [TD=align: right]519[/TD] [TD=align: right]21[/TD] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right].277[/TD] [TD=align: right]94[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]4th inning[/TD] [TD=align: right]317[/TD] [TD=align: right]310.1[/TD] [TD=align: right]145[/TD] [TD=align: right] 4.21[/TD] [TD=align: right]1334[/TD] [TD=align: right]1202[/TD] [TD=align: right]155[/TD] [TD=align: right]319[/TD] [TD=align: right]65[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]37[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]101[/TD] [TD=align: right]175[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.73[/TD] [TD=align: right].265[/TD] [TD=align: right].329[/TD] [TD=align: right].420[/TD] [TD=align: right].749[/TD] [TD=align: right]505[/TD] [TD=align: right]26[/TD] [TD=align: right]16[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right].283[/TD] [TD=align: right]99[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]5th inning[/TD] [TD=align: right]312[/TD] [TD=align: right]306.0[/TD] [TD=align: right]158[/TD] [TD=align: right] 4.65[/TD] [TD=align: right]1304[/TD] [TD=align: right]1188[/TD] [TD=align: right]167[/TD] [TD=align: right]313[/TD] [TD=align: right]64[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]44[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]72[/TD] [TD=align: right]208[/TD] [TD=align: right]2.89[/TD] [TD=align: right].263[/TD] [TD=align: right].311[/TD] [TD=align: right].435[/TD] [TD=align: right].746[/TD] [TD=align: right]517[/TD] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: right]18[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right].284[/TD] [TD=align: right]97[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]6th inning[/TD] [TD=align: right]281[/TD] [TD=align: right]265.1[/TD] [TD=align: right]118[/TD] [TD=align: right] 4.00[/TD] [TD=align: right]1129[/TD] [TD=align: right]1029[/TD] [TD=align: right]113[/TD] [TD=align: right]277[/TD] [TD=align: right]69[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]29[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]74[/TD] [TD=align: right]169[/TD] [TD=align: right]2.28[/TD] [TD=align: right].269[/TD] [TD=align: right].322[/TD] [TD=align: right].429[/TD] [TD=align: right].750[/TD] [TD=align: right]441[/TD] [TD=align: right]19[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right].296[/TD] [TD=align: right]99[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]7th inning[/TD] [TD=align: right]196[/TD] [TD=align: right]166.1[/TD] [TD=align: right]74[/TD] [TD=align: right] 4.00[/TD] [TD=align: right]680[/TD] [TD=align: right]630[/TD] [TD=align: right]63[/TD] [TD=align: right]161[/TD] [TD=align: right]38[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]26[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]32[/TD] [TD=align: right]98[/TD] [TD=align: right]3.06[/TD] [TD=align: right].256[/TD] [TD=align: right].297[/TD] [TD=align: right].443[/TD] [TD=align: right].740[/TD] [TD=align: right]279[/TD] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right].266[/TD] [TD=align: right]94[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]8th inning[/TD] [TD=align: right]72[/TD] [TD=align: right] 57.0[/TD] [TD=align: right]31[/TD] [TD=align: right] 4.89[/TD] [TD=align: right]250[/TD] [TD=align: right]234[/TD] [TD=align: right]25[/TD] [TD=align: right]68[/TD] [TD=align: right]18[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD=align: right]33[/TD] [TD=align: right]2.54[/TD] [TD=align: right].291[/TD] [TD=align: right].329[/TD] [TD=align: right].543[/TD] [TD=align: right].872[/TD] [TD=align: right]127[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right].298[/TD] [TD=align: right]127[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]9th inning[/TD] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD=align: right] 14.1[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right] 3.77[/TD] [TD=align: right]62[/TD] [TD=align: right]58[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.25[/TD] [TD=align: right].259[/TD] [TD=align: right].306[/TD] [TD=align: right].414[/TD] [TD=align: right].720[/TD] [TD=align: right]24[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right].255[/TD] [TD=align: right]91[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]Ext inning[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right] 4.1[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right] 6.23[/TD] [TD=align: right]23[/TD] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0.17[/TD] [TD=align: right].267[/TD] [TD=align: right].455[/TD] [TD=align: right].600[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.055[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right].214[/TD] [TD=align: right]180[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]Innings 1-3[/TD] [TD=align: right]328[/TD] [TD=align: right]965.0[/TD] [TD=align: right]448[/TD] [TD=align: right] 4.18[/TD] [TD=align: right]4104[/TD] [TD=align: right]3713[/TD] [TD=align: right]488[/TD] [TD=align: right]978[/TD] [TD=align: right]208[/TD] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD=align: right]133[/TD] [TD=align: right]42[/TD] [TD=align: right]29[/TD] [TD=align: right]289[/TD] [TD=align: right]673[/TD] [TD=align: right]2.33[/TD] [TD=align: right].263[/TD] [TD=align: right].322[/TD] [TD=align: right].436[/TD] [TD=align: right].758[/TD] [TD=align: right]1619[/TD] [TD=align: right]72[/TD] [TD=align: right]46[/TD] [TD=align: right]32[/TD] [TD=align: right]24[/TD] [TD=align: right]20[/TD] [TD=align: right]28[/TD] [TD=align: right].288[/TD] [TD=align: right]101[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]Innings 4-6[/TD] [TD=align: right]331[/TD] [TD=align: right]881.2[/TD] [TD=align: right]421[/TD] [TD=align: right] 4.30[/TD] [TD=align: right]3767[/TD] [TD=align: right]3419[/TD] [TD=align: right]435[/TD] [TD=align: right]909[/TD] [TD=align: right]198[/TD] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD=align: right]110[/TD] [TD=align: right]21[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]247[/TD] [TD=align: right]552[/TD] [TD=align: right]2.23[/TD] [TD=align: right].266[/TD] [TD=align: right].320[/TD] [TD=align: right].428[/TD] [TD=align: right].748[/TD] [TD=align: right]1463[/TD] [TD=align: right]60[/TD] [TD=align: right]40[/TD] [TD=align: right]35[/TD] [TD=align: right]26[/TD] [TD=align: right]29[/TD] [TD=align: right]32[/TD] [TD=align: right].287[/TD] [TD=align: right]98[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: hl] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: tooltip]Innings 7-9[/TD] [TD=align: right]197[/TD] [TD=align: right]237.2[/TD] [TD=align: right]111[/TD] [TD=align: right] 4.20[/TD] [TD=align: right]992[/TD] [TD=align: right]922[/TD] [TD=align: right]95[/TD] [TD=align: right]244[/TD] [TD=align: right]59[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]39[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]49[/TD] [TD=align: right]136[/TD] [TD=align: right]2.78[/TD] [TD=align: right].265[/TD] [TD=align: right].306[/TD] [TD=align: right].466[/TD] [TD=align: right].772[/TD] [TD=align: right]430[/TD] [TD=align: right]21[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: 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