B Ball fan, to answer your first post, my guess is that the vast majority of the 37% are republicans or moderates. I doubt many, if any liberals believe it to be a hoax.

 

As for me, I am a repub and as I stated in an earlier post, I believe the climate is changing but not trusting the people who cram it down our throat, I am not sure if we have as much to do with it is as we are led to believe. De forestation by man definitely does not help though and that will be a bigger issue in the future as many "undeveloped" countries look to grow. I believe in 20 - 30 years you may only see lions, cheehtas, etc... in a zoo. Why a trip to Africa and the plains is on my bucket list.

 

A person can agree that humans have affected the climate in negative ways and simultaneously not support the proposed solutions, which are often bad ideas. The problem is that those who don't like the proposed solutions have instead turned to attacking science. Climate change is not a controversial issue among scientists, but it is among politicians and lobbyist, which is telling. I think it ends up making some people appear foolish, and it also ends up meaning bad solutions are the only solutions that are going to get done. The only debate comes down to "do anything!" versus "do nothing!" instead of pragmatism. And that probably extends to just about every political issue these days.

A person can agree that humans have affected the climate in negative ways and simultaneously not support the proposed solutions, which are often bad ideas. The problem is that those who don't like the proposed solutions have instead turned to attacking science. Climate change is not a controversial issue among scientists, but it is among politicians and lobbyist, which is telling. I think it ends up making some people appear foolish, and it also ends up meaning bad solutions are the only solutions that are going to get done. The only debate comes down to "do anything!" versus "do nothing!" instead of pragmatism. And that probably extends to just about every political issue these days.

 

If pragmatism dominated we would have gone nuclear already just to make a dent. Idealism trumps pragmatism much as politics does.

Then why include the part about how hot it was?

 

Topical writer's license to kick off thread in interesting fashion. Caught your attention.

Topical writer's license to kick off thread in interesting fashion. Caught your attention.

 

Right, that's what it was...

 

As I sit here wiping moisture from my brow on an April spring day that is probably 20-25 degrees warmer than what is normal for this time of year,

B Ball fan, to answer your first post, my guess is that the vast majority of the 37% are republicans or moderates. I doubt many, if any liberals believe it to be a hoax.

 

As for me, I am a repub and as I stated in an earlier post, I believe the climate is changing but not trusting the people who cram it down our throat, I am not sure if we have as much to do with it is as we are led to believe. De forestation by man definitely does not help though and that will be a bigger issue in the future as many "undeveloped" countries look to grow. I believe in 20 - 30 years you may only see lions, cheehtas, etc... in a zoo. Why a trip to Africa and the plains is on my bucket list.

And if you haven't been to the Outer Banks, better do so sooner rather than later.

And if you haven't been to the Outer Banks, better do so sooner rather than later.

 

Soon to be known as the Outer sand bar...visit at low tide only and watch the time closely. Hey, maybe it could be the Venice of the Americas?

I don't think I've ever ran into anyone that says Global Warming doesn't exist, rather people that question the impact man has on it.

Right, that's what it was...

 

Creative descriptive writing to paint a picture for more interesting reading. I actually was wiping my brow at the very moment that I was creating the thread. It actually was higher than normal at 80 degrees. Continued on stating that I was pondering the validity of Global Warming and so on and so on...

 

I don't know... all seemed worthy of noting considering the topic.

 

Why am I dissecting this on and on ad nauseum? Perhaps I'm being sucked in to the hair-splitting petty nature that is so prevalent in these type online forums. Shame on me for falling for it.

Right, that's what it was...

 

While you're concentrating on the initial comments that I was making, see if you are keen enough to read between the lines of the true nature of my thread.

 

Hint: It wasn't whether Global Warming is real or not.

I am a registered Independent and I absolutely, 100% believe that there is global warming and that human behavior and industrialization are contributing factors to speeding up the process. As to whether I am liberal, moderate or conservative, I consider myself moderate.

What would the media reaction be if this happened today instead of the 1930s? Would Global Warming get the blame?

 

The unusually wet period, which encouraged increased settlement and cultivation in the Great Plains, ended in 1930. This was the year in which an extended and severe drought began which caused crops to fail, leaving the plowed fields exposed to wind erosion. The fine soil of the Great Plains was easily eroded and carried east by strong continental winds.

 

On November 11, 1933, a very strong dust storm stripped topsoil from desiccated South Dakota farmlands in just one of a series of bad dust storms that year. Then, beginning on May 9, 1934, a strong, two-day dust storm removed massive amounts of Great Plains topsoil in one of the worst such storms of the Dust Bowl. The dust clouds blew all the way to Chicago, where they deposited 12 million pounds of dust.[9] Two days later, the same storm reached cities in the east, such as Buffalo, Boston, Cleveland, New York City, and Washington, D.C.[10] That winter (1934–1935), red snow fell on New England.

 

On April 14, 1935, known as "Black Sunday", 20 of the worst "black blizzards" occurred throughout the Dust Bowl, causing extensive damage and turning the day to night; witnesses reported they could not see five feet in front of them at certain points.

What would the media reaction be if this happened today instead of the 1930s? Would Global Warming get the blame?

 

The unusually wet period, which encouraged increased settlement and cultivation in the Great Plains, ended in 1930. This was the year in which an extended and severe drought began which caused crops to fail, leaving the plowed fields exposed to wind erosion. The fine soil of the Great Plains was easily eroded and carried east by strong continental winds.

 

On November 11, 1933, a very strong dust storm stripped topsoil from desiccated South Dakota farmlands in just one of a series of bad dust storms that year. Then, beginning on May 9, 1934, a strong, two-day dust storm removed massive amounts of Great Plains topsoil in one of the worst such storms of the Dust Bowl. The dust clouds blew all the way to Chicago, where they deposited 12 million pounds of dust.[9] Two days later, the same storm reached cities in the east, such as Buffalo, Boston, Cleveland, New York City, and Washington, D.C.[10] That winter (1934–1935), red snow fell on New England.

 

On April 14, 1935, known as "Black Sunday", 20 of the worst "black blizzards" occurred throughout the Dust Bowl, causing extensive damage and turning the day to night; witnesses reported they could not see five feet in front of them at certain points.

It would be blamed on the airlines spraying poison behind them on cross country flights.

While you're concentrating on the initial comments that I was making, see if you are keen enough to read between the lines of the true nature of my thread.

 

Hint: It wasn't whether Global Warming is real or not.

I don't know, I'm pretty slow but let me give it a shot....

 

Before I do how about you explain what your second question was asking. You know, since I'm not keen enough to read between the lines.

What would the media reaction be if this happened today instead of the 1930s? Would Global Warming get the blame?

 

The unusually wet period, which encouraged increased settlement and cultivation in the Great Plains, ended in 1930. This was the year in which an extended and severe drought began which caused crops to fail, leaving the plowed fields exposed to wind erosion. The fine soil of the Great Plains was easily eroded and carried east by strong continental winds.

 

On November 11, 1933, a very strong dust storm stripped topsoil from desiccated South Dakota farmlands in just one of a series of bad dust storms that year. Then, beginning on May 9, 1934, a strong, two-day dust storm removed massive amounts of Great Plains topsoil in one of the worst such storms of the Dust Bowl. The dust clouds blew all the way to Chicago, where they deposited 12 million pounds of dust.[9] Two days later, the same storm reached cities in the east, such as Buffalo, Boston, Cleveland, New York City, and Washington, D.C.[10] That winter (1934–1935), red snow fell on New England.

 

On April 14, 1935, known as "Black Sunday", 20 of the worst "black blizzards" occurred throughout the Dust Bowl, causing extensive damage and turning the day to night; witnesses reported they could not see five feet in front of them at certain points.

 

I have not done any research on the subject, but just from watching the local weather, it seems that a lot of the record highs and lows for many dates, occurred in the 1930's. As I have said before, warming and cooling happens in cycles. I think we give 'man' far too much credit if we think he has that significant of an affect on the global weather.

"Climate Change" is the current catch phrase for what was once called "Global Warming". This way man can be blamed for whatever happens.

 

Do I believe "Climate Change" is a hoax? No.

 

Do I believe "Climate Change" is man made? While I think man may have contributed to it, the contribution was extremely minute, at the most, and my belief is that this event is primarily a natural thing and there is nothing man can do to reverse it.

 

Do I believe my government has used this event to grab more of my money, reduce my freedom, and gain more control over my life? Absolutely!