August 12, 201214 yr Yeah, politics...huh? Are you saying it's no big deal when Obama does it? Just when a conservative does? I didn't say it was a big deal. I found interest in Marvel's contention that you overlook his quotes regarding the most influential person in the guy's political life.
August 12, 201214 yr Obamas greatest political influence, Saul Alinsky, was also an atheist.. Is there a point here ? It will be instructive to see which "greatest political influence" - The President's or the Candidate's - gets the most attention.
August 12, 201214 yr This person says you can't be both. American Values Network :: Christians Must Choose: Ayn Rand or Jesus You can. I am one of them. Relgion was never her main focus. This person is impicating it is. Her main focus was and still, through her novels, has been advocating a moral and ethical foundation for capitalism. She thought that if man has a right to exist, he therefore has a right to exist for himself. Not for others. Man is not a 'sacrificial animal' as she would put it and not the property of the collective. That's where her 'evil selfishness' philosophy stems from. If you want to help people, you as the individual must choose, not be forced. I fail to see how a Christian can't follow that philosophy.
August 12, 201214 yr You can. I am one of them. Relgion was never her main focus. This person is impicating it is. Her main focus was and still, through her novels, has been advocating a moral and ethical foundation for capitalism. She thought that if man has a right to exist, he therefore has a right to exist for himself. Not for others. Man is not a 'sacrificial animal' as she would put it and not the property of the collective. That's where her 'evil selfishness' philosophy stems from. If you want to help people, you as the individual must choose, not be forced. I fail to see how a Christian can't follow that philosophy. Because some Christians will discount her words and philosophy because of her faith.
August 12, 201214 yr Because some Christians will discount her words and philosophy because of her faith. That doesn't explain why they can't follow her philosophy, it just tells me why they won't. They are the irrational. I don't think it is a big percentage that would, btw.
August 12, 201214 yr There is a school of thought that we have Bush the Younger and Cheney all over again. The Veep is the brains and the Prez wields the pen. Really??? Where is that school of thought coming from? I haven't heard anything that Romney doesn't have the brains.
August 12, 201214 yr Yeah, the liberals are already fire breathing Christians, Muslims, atheists, agnostics and Catholics all rolled into one. Conservatives are hardcore Christians who still believe Obama is Muslim with no birth certificate. I've heard the term Religious Right multiple times. Never heard Religious Left. I think we all know where the hardcore Christians reside at in the political spectrum. There is a Religious Left, they worship Government.
August 13, 201214 yr Article in the USA today Link From the article. "A man of deep Christian faith, he remains rooted in the Roman Catholic tradition of his upbringing, even citing the social teaching of the church to defend his budget plan. "Our rights come from nature and God, not government," Ryan said in his announcement speech". Seems more of a Catholic than some!
August 13, 201214 yr Article in the USA today Link From the article. "A man of deep Christian faith, he remains rooted in the Roman Catholic tradition of his upbringing, even citing the social teaching of the church to defend his budget plan. "Our rights come from nature and God, not government," Ryan said in his announcement speech". Seems more of a Catholic than some! Who is "some?" One of the largest Catholic universities in the country sent him a letter after his budget was proposed. Joining a chorus of Catholic bishops, theologians, priests, and social justice leaders, nearly 90 Georgetown University faculty and administrators have called Representative Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) to task for his misuse of Catholic social teaching in defending his budget, which hurts the poor. Paul Ryan Challenged On Budget By Georgetown Faculty (UPDATED) The US Catholic Bishops weighed in as well. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has also opposed the budget, writing in a letter that it failed to meet moral obligations to poor people. "Everybody looks at the Gospel, everybody looks at Catholic social teaching and then makes up their own mind about how it applies in the real world. We all do that," Reese told The Huffington Post. "But, I think that we, the faculty at Georgetown University, who have studied Catholic social teaching, look at his budget and say, 'Hey, wait a minute, you're balancing the budget on the backs of the poor.''' "Everybody's worried about the debt, but you can't quote the pope to say that the debt should be solved by cutting government programs that help poor people and not raising taxes." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/26/paul-ryan-defends-budgets_n_1456382.html
August 13, 201214 yr Finally hit it right with a prediction. Palin was the exception, but I always view the VP selection as pre-season football and really not a barometer for the rest of a campaign.
August 13, 201214 yr Really strong interview with Gov Romney and Rep Ryan tonight on "60 Minutes." Gov Romney said they will be using HIS budget plan and not Rep Ryan's.
August 13, 201214 yr Article in the USA today Link From the article. "A man of deep Christian faith, he remains rooted in the Roman Catholic tradition of his upbringing, even citing the social teaching of the church to defend his budget plan. "Our rights come from nature and God, not government," Ryan said in his announcement speech". Seems more of a Catholic than some! You do not have to be Catholic to appreciate his words. Being an American who understands and believes in the founding (and hopefully ongoing) principles of our Constitutional Republic. His words are the short version of the document declaring our breakage with England: "When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." Natural law is a higher power than positive law. That is the foundation of the nation.
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