July 29, 201214 yr Uh isn't that what all criminal statutes do ? Criminal statutes are written to punish someone once they commit a crime. The fear of punishment is the deterrent.
July 29, 201214 yr So now we're going to go all "pre-crime" and start making laws because someone may commit a crime? Yes like in Phillip K Dick's short story "Minority Report"
July 29, 201214 yr Not at all. A previously law abiding citizen could decide to mow down pedestrians on a crowded sidewalk. Should we then ban cars? How about a previously law abiding union pipe fitter uses a piece of pipe to bash in the heads of a few co-workers? Should we then ban pipe? If you start banning everything that someone could use to inflict harm on another person it doesn't leave a whole lot of legal products. There are already laws in place that provide penalties for using legal products illegally. Enforce them. As callus as it may sound you can't save everyone from evil people no matter how many laws you pass. And in the interest of full disclosure I do not now nor have I ever owned a gun. Now Pray tell why did you use that example !!
July 29, 201214 yr Now Pray tell why did you use that example !! Good memory. Figured it would hit close to home.
July 29, 201214 yr What has that to do with laws concerning possible crimes ,ie bank robbery shootings and assults , murder there are all laws covering thse crimes before they are committed . As per your statement If there is a proven criminal conspiracy among Union leaders or Business leaders we don't ban the union or businesses we punish the criminals .That's my point. Yet, look at how many people want to ban guns or limit them. The gun didn't commit the crime.
July 29, 201214 yr So now we're going to go all "pre-crime" and start making laws because someone may commit a crime? Ha I already asked if we should expect the same out of him based on that line of thinking.
July 29, 201214 yr I meant no one not one as in original post. Ha and here I was waiting for RM to have to come defend her reasoning, sorry RM.
July 29, 201214 yr Not at all. A previously law abiding citizen could decide to mow down pedestrians on a crowded sidewalk. Should we then ban cars? How about a previously law abiding union pipe fitter uses a piece of pipe to bash in the heads of a few co-workers? Should we then ban pipe? If you start banning everything that someone could use to inflict harm on another person it doesn't leave a whole lot of legal products. There are already laws in place that provide penalties for using legal products illegally. Enforce them. As callus as it may sound you can't save everyone from evil people no matter how many laws you pass. And in the interest of full disclosure I do not now nor have I ever owned a gun. Please don't take away my pipes or my guns(online humor is so tough if you haven't met someone in person) I don't know how I will eat......
July 29, 201214 yr Good memory. Figured it would hit close to home. Not really. I've never killed anyone with a pipe. Edited July 30, 201214 yr by True blue (and gold) R13
July 29, 201214 yr Not really. I've never killed anyone with a pipe. Yet. Edited July 30, 201214 yr by True blue (and gold)
July 29, 201214 yr Not really. I've never killed anyone with a pipe. And Mr. Holmes never killed a bunch of people in a movie theatre before. Edited July 30, 201214 yr by True blue (and gold)
July 30, 201214 yr Rank State CCW Permits 1 Florida 944,582 2 Pennsylvania 786,000 3 Georgia 600,000 4 Texas 524,000 5 Indiana 420,711 6 Tennessee 366,403 7 Washington 359,342 8 Alabama 350,000 9 Utah 347,000 10 Michigan 330,793 11 Ohio 286,907 12 Virginia 279,000 13 Massachusetts 251,000 14 Iowa 243,000 15 North Carolina 240,000 16 Kentucky 216,463 17 Arizona 169,724 18 Connecticut 168,109 19 South Carolina 148,000 20 Oregon 147,000 Just for discussion sake
July 30, 201214 yr Rank State CCW Permits 1 Florida 944,582 2 Pennsylvania 786,000 3 Georgia 600,000 4 Texas 524,000 5 Indiana 420,711 6 Tennessee 366,403 7 Washington 359,342 8 Alabama 350,000 9 Utah 347,000 10 Michigan 330,793 11 Ohio 286,907 12 Virginia 279,000 13 Massachusetts 251,000 14 Iowa 243,000 15 North Carolina 240,000 16 Kentucky 216,463 17 Arizona 169,724 18 Connecticut 168,109 19 South Carolina 148,000 20 Oregon 147,000 Just for discussion sake KY at 216k with about 4.5M folks means you've got about about a 1/20 chance that the other person doesn't have a gun. A lot of people would like those odds, unless they're betting their life on it....
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