April 16, 201214 yr Much like it's a perception that Mitt or his wife have no feel for women's issues or that Obama does. I'm really not aware of either perception to be honest.
April 16, 201214 yr I'm really not aware of either perception to be honest. Not real prominent on the radar for either one of them in the grand scheme of things. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that things like the economy, unemployment, etc. will be bigger issues.
April 16, 201214 yr Interesting read: Mitt Romney: Mothers Should Be Required To Work Outside Home Or Lose Benefits Mitt Romney, however, judging by his January remark, views stay-at-home moms who are supported by federal assistance much differently than those backed by hundreds of millions in private equity income. Poor women, he said, shouldn't be given a choice, but instead should be required to work outside the home to receive Temporary Assistance for Needy Families benefits. "[E]ven if you have a child 2 years of age, you need to go to work," Romney said of moms on TANF. Recalling his effort as governor to increase the amount of time women on welfare in Massachusetts were required to work, Romney noted that some had considered his proposal "heartless," but he argued that the women would be better off having "the dignity of work" -- a suggestion Ann Romney would likely take issue with. "I wanted to increase the work requirement," said Romney. "I said, for instance, that even if you have a child 2 years of age, you need to go to work. And people said, 'Well that's heartless.' And I said, 'No, no, I'm willing to spend more giving day care to allow those parents to go back to work. It'll cost the state more providing that daycare, but I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.'"
April 16, 201214 yr Interesting read: Mitt Romney: Mothers Should Be Required To Work Outside Home Or Lose Benefits But Mitt's not out of touch. Naw. His character isn't formed by his wealth. Who would think such a thing?
April 16, 201214 yr But Mitt's not out of touch. Naw. His character isn't formed by his wealth. Who would think such a thing?Stupid and disappointing thing thing to say, I agree. But now you claim he's out of touch because of one comment? That his character is indeed formed by his wealth? That's all it takes for an informed opinion for you where Romney is concerned? Somehow I think Obama was afforded a better chance than that.
April 16, 201214 yr Interesting read: Mitt Romney: Mothers Should Be Required To Work Outside Home Or Lose Benefits This puts Mitt in the same category on this issue as Rosen. A stupid comment and an attack that's totally uncalled for. He lost points with me to be sure. That being said, I'll still take him over Obama any day, and I'm not a fan of Romney on gun issues either, but he's not as bad as Obama on that issue either. Bottom line, I think Romney would do a better job of getting the country back on the right track. President Obama has failed in my eyes on that.
April 16, 201214 yr Stupid and disappointing thing thing to say, I agree. But now you claim he's out of touch because of one comment? That his character is indeed formed by his wealth? That's all it takes for an informed opinion for you where Romney is concerned? Somehow I think Obama was afforded a better chance than that. Of course Obama is. He fits my agenda. :lol:
April 16, 201214 yr Interesting read: Mitt Romney: Mothers Should Be Required To Work Outside Home Or Lose Benefits that is my question. . . It is okay for Anne to stay home and for Mitt to get the marriage tax deduction, subsidizing her staying home, but when the poor do it they are living on the government dole and are lazy and not working. This is the way it appears: Wealthy wives who choose to stay home are good hard workers and should not be criticized for it. Poor single mothers who stay home are lazy and need to get out and get a job.
April 16, 201214 yr that is my question. . . It is okay for Anne to stay home and for Mitt to get the marriage tax deduction,... Deduction? It is commonly (and correctly) called the marriage tax penalty. The states and fed tax married individuals more than if they are married since supposedly they combine their income. It is basically an extra tax for the status of being married. Somewhat like discriminating against those that are 'married'. Queue the Beatles 'Tax Man'...
April 16, 201214 yr that is my question. . . It is okay for Anne to stay home and for Mitt to get the marriage tax deduction, subsidizing her staying home, but when the poor do it they are living on the government dole and are lazy and not working. This is the way it appears: Wealthy wives who choose to stay home are good hard workers and should not be criticized for it. Poor single mothers who stay home are lazy and need to get out and get a job. Are you seriously saying a tax deduction is the same thing as someone collecting a welfare check and food stamps?
April 16, 201214 yr Are you seriously saying a tax deduction is the same thing as someone collecting a welfare check and food stamps? Well, for everyone else it is....I bet Ace takes quite a few deductions when he files.
April 16, 201214 yr Are you seriously saying a tax deduction is the same thing as someone collecting a welfare check and food stamps? So then I am correct. It is okay for wealthy to stay home, but not poor ones. Just asking.
April 16, 201214 yr Well, for everyone else it is....I bet Ace takes quite a few deductions when he files. "I know you are but what am I?" . . . You know this is the first time that I have ever typed UKMustangFan in a post. The only time I ever remember being the least bit personal with anyone was about section 8 about three years ago, yet you guys make it that way every time. Can't just answer the darn question?
April 16, 201214 yr "I know you are but what am I?" . . . You know this is the first time that I have ever typed UKMustangFan in a post. The only time I ever remember being the least bit personal with anyone was about section 8 about three years ago, yet you guys make it that way every time. Can't just answer the darn question? Simply trying to understand how one can sit here and complain about people taking a tax deduction, when you yourself do so. Seems hypocritcal to me that's all. And to answer your question, no, tax deductions are no where even close to being in the same universe as sitting on your butt all day receiving government handouts.
April 16, 201214 yr Interesting read: Mitt Romney: Mothers Should Be Required To Work Outside Home Or Lose Benefits I've been waiting since this whole issue erupted for someone to bring up Romney's comments on welfare receiving stay at home Moms. What do folks think about every stay at home Mom receiving payment from the federal govt for raising their children? With limits, such as kid has to be attending school 95% of the school days; has to be doing at least B grade work: no juvenile arrests; no discipline problems in school, etc. Is society better off in the long run making sure kids are well parented, and if so, should we be willing to pay to help make that happen? Some South American countries actually pay parents if their kids are successful in grade, middle and high school in order to give previously unconcerned parents an incentive to become concerned about the education of their children. Perhaps if we pay a parent to stay at home and link that payment to certain results we think will ultimately benefit society, we'll save money in the long run? My anti big govt brethren are cursing me for even bringing up the question.:D
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