Hoptown b-ball fan
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Well Said Hypeman. Tim's issue is this. He wins. We all know that. But his "personality", let's call it, makes him the type of coach that when he doesn't win, it's REALLY hard to like him. This season is a great illustration of that. The issues they've had within their program wouldn't be nearly as "bad" if he was dominating the region/district. Most agree that he has the most talented and deepest roster in the region, but he finished a clear 3rd in the district and they don't have much coming back. So the folks around Hoptown who have "turned the other cheek" because he was winning are circling like hawks... He's got 3 major issues. 1. No matter when he was winning or when he wasn't, some VERY talented kids never even got close to making it to even a NAIA college basketball court. There is a perception and perhaps a bit of a reality around the program that he isn't helping kids make sure that they are doing what they need to do to make sure qualify. There is also a perception that he wasn't willing to help kids get to the top aau programs. Sure, some of that is on the Guidance counselor and parents, but some of the complaints are valid. I won't get into details about specific kids, but that is starting to hurt his "pipeline" because most kids start with the dream of playing college ball. When there isn't a consistent track record of that then folks start to think about whether "winning" is worth not getting the exposure/help you need in order to make it to the next level. Some of this criticism is fair, and some isn't. But the perception is definitely out there. 2. Discipline - The Shorty Cager situation is well documented but there are other private (they should be because they are juvenile issues) issues that have shown him and his program in a very bad light. There is a perception that kids would be disciplined in other programs don't have anything said to them in his program. Some even say he enables some of the in school/out of school behavior by the kids. This is really hurting him with the "blue bloods" in the Hoptown fanbase. Those folks worshiped the ground he walked on when these issues weren't as numerous and when he was winning. Now that he's losing those folks are digging deeper and from what I understand aren't happy with what they are finding. Again, some of this is perception. 3. His "big personality" was great when he was winning. He could say some outrageous stuff when he was winning. Now that he's losing, when he says the "crazy stuff" it really rubs folks the wrong way. For example, last night he blamed the loss "all on the kids." Then he followed up blaming the kids with "they're little boys, they aren't men". In all of my MANNNNY years of following sports I don't know that i've ever heard a coach so directly blame kids. Not even a college or nba coach. Those kinds of "outrageous" statements are commonplace for Tim. When you're winning regional championships you can say those things (for a while at least). But when you start losing the act wears out quick. Again, I give them a lot of credit for the wins they've had in the last few years. It's a heck of a run in a tough district. But even before the losing there were folks asking serious questions. Let's also be fair. County was significantly weaker at their head coaching position and UHA was breaking in a very inexperienced coach who seems to be hitting his stride now when Haworth started. Now you have a legend in Stovall at County and a much better roster and much more experienced and better staff at UHA. Tim had very good timing at Hoptown. The time when he started to hit his stride, County and UHA had pretty rough coaching situations. Losing the key guys they lose... I won't be surprised to hear that he's moved on.
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Kyky Tandy rebounded after a tough performance against Christian County with 36 and Jalen Johnson had 29 points for Hoptown. This was at Hoptown. First win for Heights at Hoptown since 2008. This just isn’t your typical Tim Haworth team. Considering all that they lose I’m sure The folks at Hoptown are concerned.
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no. See above post with the actual rules example. If the defensive player takes possession of the ball, yes, it would be switched to 2 points. But on a "tip" it stays a 3.
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Look at it this way. if the defensive player goal tends a 3 point shot they don't take away a point and make it 2 points since he was the last player to touch it inside the arc? It should be a 3 point shot. I've seen a million times where the ball is tipped on a 3 point shot but 3 points is still given. The only time an official makes a ruling on if a player is "shooting" or not is on a foul. In this situation, the rule-book literally says "throw" to prove that there is not difference between a pass and a shot in this situation.
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Wrong call by the official... Straight out of the NFHS Casebook. 5.2.1 Situation C: A1 throws the ball from behind the three-point line. The ball is legally touched by: (a) B1 who is in the three-point area; or (b) B1 who is in the two-point area: © A2 who is in the three-point area: or (d) A2 who is in the two-point area. The ball continues in flight and goes through A's basket. Ruling: In (a) and (b), three points are scored since the legal touching was by the defense and the ball was thrown from behind the three-point line. In ©, score three points since the legal touch by a teammate occurred behind the three-point line. In (d), score two points since the legal touch by a teammate occurred in the two-point area. Hope this clarifies.
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Does the rule book address the difference between the two?
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I agree. No consistency in how they apply the rule.
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He's a sophomore.
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hot take. I think we are better when Mathis gets Long's minutes...
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Pardon - Instead of "double it" it should have said "double ot"
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Surprising that this game was competitive. (Double it) It took T-Ware’s 45 to beat an average Henderson County team. A massive week ahead for County as we have UHA on Tuesday and Hoptown on Saturday night. If we beat UHA we win the district,&( not there are a ton of scenarios that come into play, including the dreaded “triple coin flip” If we don’t play better against Heights we could easily lose to Them.
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Perhaps the Blazers most impressive performance of the season. At one point in the 3rd quarter they led by 25. Four Blazers reached 15 points with Tandy pacing them with 28. Bowling Green turned around and destroyed Zion Harmon and Adair County on Sunday.
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I hope this helped with the healing process in Marshall County... If Livingston gets the right draw I think they win a game in regional. And by "right draw" I mean, don't draw the 8th district runner-up. I think they beat the second place team from the other two districts in the region.
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What a great day to be a colonel...
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Their best player was out when they played all of the games you are referencing. They stuck with the top teams in the state without him. The great news is that they will play a bunch of really good teams over The next 4 weeks and will have a chance to prove it.
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Hit the wrong key. “Top 10”. My bad.
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I think they are top 20... Their best player was out the first half of this season. Rode... They've got size and they proved today they have athleticism. They are rated in the top 10 in both computer rankings. I'm not sure why you would say it's hyperbole to say they are top 20.
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That's not entirely fair. McGowan and Hollowell are nice players as well as Crump as a freshman. They are much improved on defense. In watching the game this morning, their issues on defense were because they overplayed too much and LCA abused them on backdoors and pulled them out for lobs over the top. That's something UHA is much better at this year. LCA was just an awful awful matchup for them. They killed them on the boards. That's where the margin of victory came from. When LCA did miss UHA couldn't get boards. This LCA team may completely roll through the entire tournament. With WV losing their big man there isn't anybody with CLOSE to the size they have. LCA is a top 10 team in the state. They're REALLY good. By the way. Hats off to "prepspin" for broadcasting games. Very nice to be able to watch.
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22-6 rebounding edge for LCA
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No, UHA is getting no rebounds. But it doesn't matter. LCA is shooting lights out.
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Thorough butt whipping going on right now. UHA may have a run in them but it sure seems like they have no answer for LCA's size and half court offense.
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Shew... That top half of the bracket is pretty weak compared to the lower bracket. Especially after this UHA vs. LCA game. Whoever wins this one looks to have a fairly easy path to Sunday. No disrespect to anybody intended. Just an observation.
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I'd rank the teams this way. 1. LCA 2. Mayfield 3. UHA 4. Walton Verona 5. Pikeville 6.Sommerset 7. Beechwood 8. O Cath 9. Knott 10. Collegiate 11. Robertson 12. Holy Cross But 10-12 is a big tossup in my opinion.