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It's a fair question. There are regulations apparently on when the band is allowed to play in a football contest.

Is Sticklen going to play college ball anywhere?

I would agree with that. The Riley kid is a solid player.

Final. In what appears to be the only game in the state last night, the Lightning came out on top. Career high points and rebounds for sophomore Will Martin (17/14) and 8th grader Ben Zalla also hit double digits with 12. Kid has a bright future. Lightning will go for win #10 against SG. Double digits would be a great accomplishment for a team that has no seniors and one junior.

In your eyes they are different. From where I'm sitting, advantage gained by moving without dribbling. Same thing. Unfortunate, maybe. But there's a lot of calls where players have good intentions and it doesn't turn out the right way. But if you didn't listen before, you probably aren't going to. I guess.

Why not? There was an advantage gained. It's called all the time when a player on the floor that got on the ground first slides his butt or rolls because he was trying to get the ball away from defenders trying to tie him up. Doesn't mean it wasn't great hustle, but that's the rules of the game.

Many cases where a player gets on the floor for a loose ball and doesn't slide across the floor.

Come on man... I have no problem with the fact that you take up for the official first because judging by your vast knowledge of the rulebook, you probably are/were one and it's human nature to take up for your kind. But to say that you don't give the benefit of the doubt to the official, well, that's quite honestly simply not true. Again, not that I blame you, but it's not. If you don't know which side is the officials side, you get kinda wishy washy on it. Look at my question on the block/charge/falling early incident. It was 'probably'/'i'd have to see it' until Sandman fully answered the question. Let me be clear in that I applaud you on your willingness to respond to questions like these and value your responses as I can see you have an understanding of the rule book from your many post. That was part of why I posted the questions in this thread to begin with. But you do give the officials the benefit of the doubt. Nothing wrong with that. Most people understand it. Just own it.

Pardon me for momentarily doubting your knowledge. Very simple. I would say that just like in 95% of other cases, movement without dribbling is a travel. Slide on the floor with the ball should be ruled a travel. No different that rolling, standing, going to/from a knee, etc. Consistency.

To make that distinction to be quite honest, is crazy. So again, if that's the case, it's a bad rule.

What's the difference in sliding and scooting? Whether the momentum comes from a fall or if they were already stationary on the ground?

It's about as ridiculous as the fact that a player lying on the floor can essentially 'scoot' themselves if they so please without it being a travel. I'm not saying Clyde is wrong on the rule. I'm saying that if that's the case, it's a bad rule. We need to use some common sense here...

Thank you. For being a pretty straightforward call, this one is called incorrectly too much.

I guess my question was more... Is "he was falling early" a reasonable explanation for a call being a block rather than charge

How is that any different than a player rolling with possession of the ball

If true, I don't understand this... Movement without dribbling = travel

If a defender is falling early and thus the contact is minimal (to the lower body/legs)... Block/Charge?

Kid dives on the floor, possesses the ball, continues to slide an addition 3-4 feet before passing the ball. Legal?

And to add to the conversation, personally, I feel like a common call that gets missed is a dragged pivot foot/shuffling of the feet. Especially in two places: 1. When a player is trapped/about to get trapped on the perimeter 2. When a post player is doubled and/or making a post move.

This. There is far too much inconsistency with the euro.

To be quite honest, this isn't good.... This is why some other states have quarter limits. Which I'm not advocating. I'm really just advocating that kids shouldn't play that many games in a day.

Did Kuntz not play for SG? Don't see him in the box score. He does a lot for them.

Wow

Why are you getting so offensive Jack? These are mostly legitimate questions when HHS loses to a small school like Bellevue.

So. Who hit the tip in?