Not saying this was the case at Bourbon, as I am not sure... But it seems to me that Coach Poynter's biggest issue is that he always seems to have his eye on his "next" job. If I was an AD, looking to hire someone to jump start my program - I might hire him. If I was an AD that was looking for someone over the long hall, I don't think I would.

Not saying this was the case at Bourbon, as I am not sure... But it seems to me that Coach Poynter's biggest issue is that he always seems to have his eye on his "next" job. If I was an AD, looking to hire someone to jump start my program - I might hire him. If I was an AD that was looking for someone over the long hall, I don't think I would.

 

Given the right situation, Poynter wouldn't have "his eye on the next job," but I'd agree with your point IF you had a school that was already a proven winner. If not, you get the best candidate you can for whatever amount of time you can get him to rebuild your program. Poynter was at Trimble Co for four years and did great things there (first winning season in years, first ever playoff win, and most, brought excitement about football back into the program and community). At Bourbon Co, he also took a program that was declining and helped bring it back. He did not leave that program by choice.

 

Bottom line...if I were an AD of any football school, Poynter would be on my very, very short list of top candidates.

Not saying this was the case at Bourbon, as I am not sure... But it seems to me that Coach Poynter's biggest issue is that he always seems to have his eye on his "next" job. If I was an AD, looking to hire someone to jump start my program - I might hire him. If I was an AD that was looking for someone over the long hall, I don't think I would.

 

I meant "long haul."

Given the right situation, Poynter wouldn't have "his eye on the next job," but I'd agree with your point IF you had a school that was already a proven winner. If not, you get the best candidate you can for whatever amount of time you can get him to rebuild your program. Poynter was at Trimble Co for four years and did great things there (first winning season in years, first ever playoff win, and most, brought excitement about football back into the program and community). At Bourbon Co, he also took a program that was declining and helped bring it back. He did not leave that program by choice.

 

Bottom line...if I were an AD of any football school, Poynter would be on my very, very short list of top candidates.

 

Not saying he isn't a good coach, or that he doesn't do great things, just that he always seems to have "happy feet." Even during the 4 years at Trimble, he interviewed for every job under the sun.

Johnny Poynter didnt "interview for every job under the sun" Only the jobs in central Kentucky, cause he was trying to get his 4 year old daughter and wife back closer to their family. Coach Poynter was very happy and successful at Trimble and would have stayed there if there was some way to move it closer to "THE ROCK"

Johnny Poynter didnt "interview for every job under the sun" Only the jobs in central Kentucky, cause he was trying to get his 4 year old daughter and wife back closer to their family. Coach Poynter was very happy and successful at Trimble and would have stayed there if there was some way to move it closer to "THE ROCK"

 

Wherever coach ends up they'll be getting a successful coach. I hope the administration will give him the time and resources to do the job.

 

Also, if Poynter isn't going to Dunbar, any idea on who will end up there?

If half of what han been posted here about Dunbar (not just in this thread but in others over time) then one has to wonder why any established coach would even consider going to Dunbar knowing you what you are getting into.

 

Dunbar has some of the finest facilities in the state (public or private) and they are among the largest schools in the state and yet their football program is terrible. What gives?

A big school don't mean you are good in sports, some are good in certain sports, some are good in all sports.

When your administration not only doesnt care about football, but makes it difficult to coach at the school, you are set up for failure. Look at your football powers...for the most part the administrations in those schools know that football is a great outlet for their males, raises school spirit, imporves culture, and give the student body something to rally around. Dunbar has none of that stuff going to them, and until the admin WANTS a great team...they aint getting one!

KHSAA "jobs open" has Dunbar looking for Assistant Football coaches and to contact the AD or Derrick Thomas. Posted last Friday. Is Coach Thomas back at the helm?

I believe he is officially back at the helm.

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Dunbar has some of the finest facilities in the state (public or private) and they are among the largest schools in the state and yet their football program is terrible. What gives?

 

I will try to give this a shot.

 

1) Revolving door of coaches - the problems with that are self evident.

2) Lack of solid feeder system - this is a problem with all the Fayette publics.

3) Competition for skill with other fall/winter sports - with soccer (and until this year) hockey. Also there some very good athletes that consider lacrosse their primary sport. I am not sure how many of them also play or even consider playing football.

 

From what I heard most football team parents really liked Thomas. And that is a start.

When your administration not only doesnt care about football, but makes it difficult to coach at the school, you are set up for failure. Look at your football powers...for the most part the administrations in those schools know that football is a great outlet for their males, raises school spirit, imporves culture, and give the student body something to rally around. Dunbar has none of that stuff going to them, and until the admin WANTS a great team...they aint getting one!

 

78, I don't know anything about Dunbar, but you are absolutely correct with the rest of this post. Football, because of the number of boys you can get involved, has the ability to do more positive things for young males than any other sport in my opinion.

 

You can build a great basketball program, but because of roster limits, you are still only going to be able to reach and teach the values of high school athletics to so many kids. Build a great football program and you can reach and teach as many kids that want to be on the football team.

 

If I was a principal in any high school and sat back and analyzed what sport could do more for my high school and the kids, football would have to be at the top. I read and hear all the time about the values of participating in high school athletics (team work, discipline, etc.). I read and hear all time about a majority of kids doing better in the classroom while they are participating in a sport than when they aren't. Unless all that stuff is a crock of manure (and if it is a crock, why are tax dollars being spent on high school athletics?), any principal worth the title of principal should sit back and ask him/herself how can he or she get the most kids participating in high school athletics. I think that answer is football, if for no other reason than the number of kids that can participate. If the football program is as bad at Dunbar as you suggest, the administration at that school is really missing the boat.

 

I can assure you of this: if I was the principal of a high school with a lot of discipline issues, drop outs and/or poor academic performance, building a successful football program would be at the top of my list.