The South vote really surprised me. Thought Richardson would win that one easily.

The South vote really surprised me. Thought Richardson would win that one easily.

 

I did too; not surprised at all that RG3 won it.

Burn me if you want, I knew it was coming but for the first time in a long time it was about more than just a popularity contest. Usually if your teams not in the top 5-10 you have no chance. Baylor had 3 losses, none of that should matter and tonight it didn't, the most deserving guy won.

 

 

In a normal year Richardson or Mathieu would have won for playing on a better team, or Luck because he is the most hyped and likely #1 NFL pick. Despite the past the voters got it right tonight and IMO RG3 is the most deserving ever for what he has done on the field. I've watched 5-6 Baylor games this year (unlike most people I'm sure) and what he means to that team you cannot question. Led two or three major comebacks (15+ deficits, 20+ in a couple of those games) and almost single handily won games Baylor should have lost. Guy is the real deal and very, very deserving. Didn't think he could win, especially a couple weeks ago but I have wanted him to be the guy for a couple months now, glad he was.

OK, you made a case why he should have won. That is fine. "Most deserving winner in Heisman history" does not make a lot of sense.

CCC called it over two years ago... http://www.bluegrasspreps.com/showthread.php?186374-The-Best-NFL-Prospect-ever-.....&highlight=robert+griffin

 

He may not have ended as one of the best QB prospects ever, but he is a first round pick and maybe the #2 QB on the board. RGIII and Luck are going to be stud NFL QBs IMO. Griffin will take a little longer to develop though, he won't have the instant success Luck will have or Newton, Dalton etc had.

The South vote really surprised me. Thought Richardson would win that one easily.

 

I couldn't believe it. But then I looked at Richardson's numbers and they are not on par with many other previous Heisman RBs. He really needed about 300-400 more yards and a few more TDs. That means alot to voters. They really couldn't have went wrong with any of the 5 candidates IMO.

CCC called it over two years ago... http://www.bluegrasspreps.com/showthread.php?186374-The-Best-NFL-Prospect-ever-.....&highlight=robert+griffin

 

Heck of a call by CCC. CCC knows his stuff.

Heck of a call by CCC. CCC knows his stuff.

:lol:By claiming he is the best NFL prospect ever? Not even close.

Heck of a call by CCC. CCC knows his stuff.

After so many swing and misses he is bound to hit one

Most deserving winner in Heisman history IMO.

 

 

RG3 meant more to his team than anyone, including Luck. You take him off that Baylor team and well they are Baylor. Seriously though, without Griffin they are a 3-5 win team, he single handily made them relevant all the while not being surrounded by as much talent as all the other guys. Guy is a heck of a football player and competitive and I've never been happier for a Heisman winner, well deserved.

You do realize the Heisman is not an MVP award right?

:lol:By claiming he is the best NFL prospect ever? Not even close.

 

I didn't say that but the mere fact that he called him out and pumped him up shows he can spot talent. Don't envy it, appreciate all the good info on this board.

OK, you made a case why he should have won. That is fine. "Most deserving winner in Heisman history" does not make a lot of sense.

 

You do realize the Heisman is not an MVP award right?

 

Who's a better "football" player than him????????? Honey Badger maybe but IMO Griffin is the best player in college football this year thus he should win. AND he is the most important player to his team.

 

 

 

You guys kill me with this pretty boy popularity stuff. Yeah Trent Richardson run for huge numbers against SEC defenses, so did Mark Ingram, Bo Jackson, and countless other SEC running back Heisman winners. Yeah that is an impressive feat rushing against all those good defenses and being a big part of arguably the best team in the country (or at least one of the top three teams). BUT, just like Ingram did, Richardson had success at Bama. Heck, put Raymond Sanders or Cos Williams behind that line and with all those players and I bet they put up beast numbers too.

 

Luck is a good player, probably going to be #1 draft pick and probably going to be a perennial pro bowler in the league. Luck also had the advantage of being coached by Harbaugh for most of his career and the luxury of playing against putrid Pac 12 defenses. Luck also had the benefit of a great defense and solid run game.

 

 

 

 

You guys can disagree all you want, no ones to say who's right or wrong it's all just a matter of opinion. But for what I stand for in sports and what I like to see in sports the Heisman committee will never make a better decision than what they did last night. They broke the traditional mold of giving it to the best guy on one of the best teams or most marketable or flashy guy and gave it to the guy who went out and earned it on the field. I realize all five put up incredible numbers and had the stats and seasons to be worthy, even guys who didn't make it to NYC like Barkley and Moore. BUT, Griffin III willed Baylor to win after win on nothing but grit and determination. None of those other guys could have orchestrated comebacks and been such a decisive factor in winning and losing like RG3, none of them. RG3 had none of the luxuries guys like Richardson and Luck did but achieved more in way of on field success IMO. He truly was the best football player in college this year and in a normal year had he not been on a BCS team he probably wouldn't have won. I say he is most deserving because despite the normal requisites of Heisman winners, RG3 won in spite of that.

I couldn't believe it. But then I looked at Richardson's numbers and they are not on par with many other previous Heisman RBs. He really needed about 300-400 more yards and a few more TDs. That means alot to voters. They really couldn't have went wrong with any of the 5 candidates IMO.

We used Ed Lacy in the back field a lot, he scored several TDs and I would think, why is Trent sitting? But when Ed would come off the field Trent would run over and pat on him and talk with him...Trent is a better team mate than me.

:lol:By claiming he is the best NFL prospect ever? Not even close.

 

I said that he may be "one of" the best prospects ever. Without the ACL injury two years ago who knows how much more developed he'd be right now?

 

After so many swing and misses he is bound to hit one

 

True :thumb:. I wasn't bragging, it would really be stupid to do so. I just thought it was funny that everyone thought he couldn't pass and he ended up being more of a passer than runner. No one could have saw that after his freshman year.

We used Ed Lacy in the back field a lot, he scored several TDs and I would think, why is Trent sitting? But when Ed would come off the field Trent would run over and pat on him and talk with him...Trent is a better team mate than me.

 

That is part of the reason Bama is playing for a title, alot of depth. The downside to depth is that except for a QB it can hurt your chances at awards.

I didn't say that but the mere fact that he called him out and pumped him up shows he can spot talent. Don't envy it, appreciate all the good info on this board.

:lol: That's funnier then claiming RGIII as the best prospect ever.