I don't think I would speculate too much at common opponents. Match ups with personnel change from week to week. I think that Glasgow matches up well with HC and this should be a great game. I think, not that I want this to keep going, that the BW game taught HC what their weakness was and they made great strides fixing it. I think HC and BW would be a very good game if they played again. Im glad they aren't playing again this year because all I want to see is HC beating Glasgow the rest of this season. Im predicting HC 28 Glasgow 21

Comparing scores isn't a guarantee of anything nor does it predict an outcome but it does provide insight.

 

Glasgow 14 Somerset 7

Holy Cross 48 Somerset 14

 

How do you explain those scores in a way that makes your prediction look possible?

 

Nothing I say will change your viewpoint or that of most of the NKY football fans that read this board. But I will offer my opinion. The CHC vs. Somerset game was very close until mid-way through the 3rd quarter. Somerset missed some key assignments and then completely lost their composure. To say that score (48-14) is an accurate reflection of the quality of the Somerset team is insulting to them. The margin of victory was due to lost composure and their coaching staff failing to make a key defensive adjustment in the 2nd half. But, I do not doubt that CHC is a better team than Somerset.

 

When looking back at the Glasgow/Somerset game, that was the most lopsided 14-7 game I've ever seen. I say that with all due respect to a very good Somerset squad. Somerset scored by returning the opening kickoff of the 2nd half for a touchdown. Other than some late game yardage, Somerset's offense was not effective. In fact, their best opportunity to score was after a first half Glasgow turnover deep in their territory. With an extremely wet/soaked field, Glasgow was very, very conservative on offense. They only ran about 7-8 diferrent plays all night and a majority of those were straight up the gut. Glasgow forced several turnovers, but failed to capitalize on them. In fact, Glasgow only scored on 2 of 6(maybe 7) redzone possessions. Some of that was due to conservative play calling, some of that was due to some timely holding penalties and some of it was Somerset just digging in and playing tough, hard-nosed defense. I just know that the game never really felt close. Somerset's offense (at that time) just wasn't a threat to Glasgow's defense.

 

With that being said, I think you can dismiss all of the Somerset comparisons. As "aptr" noted above: "I don't think I would speculate too much at common opponents. Match ups with personnel change from week to week." That will be the key to this game. Contrary to popular belief (well, at least on this board), Glasgow's offense is extremely explosive. There will be some serious match-up problems for CHC to deal with. Their defense seems to have improved later in the season, particurlarly the NCC game...however, I discount that to a certain degree due to the familiarity between the teams. But looking back at CHC's schedule, who have thay played later in the season that is similar to Beechwood? No one to my knowledge. Glasgow will have the most speed and size of any team on CHC's schedule since the Beechwood game.

 

So, it could be just as easy for me to predict a huge blowout win for Glasgow. We will know for sure in about 26 hours. See you there. Have a safe trip and enjoy Bowling Green. If you like New Orleans style dining, I would suggest checking out 440's on the square. Great atmosphere and fantastic cuisine.

Heard the same with Carol Co. Wax on wax off, we will see.

Nothing I say will change your viewpoint or that of most of the NKY football fans that read this board. But I will offer my opinion. The CHC vs. Somerset game was very close until mid-way through the 3rd quarter. Somerset missed some key assignments and then completely lost their composure. To say that score (48-14) is an accurate reflection of the quality of the Somerset team is insulting to them. The margin of victory was due to lost composure and their coaching staff failing to make a key defensive adjustment in the 2nd half. But, I do not doubt that CHC is a better team than Somerset.

 

When looking back at the Glasgow/Somerset game, that was the most lopsided 14-7 game I've ever seen. I say that with all due respect to a very good Somerset squad. Somerset scored by returning the opening kickoff of the 2nd half for a touchdown. Other than some late game yardage, Somerset's offense was not effective. In fact, their best opportunity to score was after a first half Glasgow turnover deep in their territory. With an extremely wet/soaked field, Glasgow was very, very conservative on offense. They only ran about 7-8 diferrent plays all night and a majority of those were straight up the gut. Glasgow forced several turnovers, but failed to capitalize on them. In fact, Glasgow only scored on 2 of 6(maybe 7) redzone possessions. Some of that was due to conservative play calling, some of that was due to some timely holding penalties and some of it was Somerset just digging in and playing tough, hard-nosed defense. I just know that the game never really felt close. Somerset's offense (at that time) just wasn't a threat to Glasgow's defense.

 

With that being said, I think you can dismiss all of the Somerset comparisons. As "aptr" noted above: "I don't think I would speculate too much at common opponents. Match ups with personnel change from week to week." That will be the key to this game. Contrary to popular belief (well, at least on this board), Glasgow's offense is extremely explosive. There will be some serious match-up problems for CHC to deal with. Their defense seems to have improved later in the season, particurlarly the NCC game...however, I discount that to a certain degree due to the familiarity between the teams. But looking back at CHC's schedule, who have thay played later in the season that is similar to Beechwood? No one to my knowledge. Glasgow will have the most speed and size of any team on CHC's schedule since the Beechwood game.

 

So, it could be just as easy for me to predict a huge blowout win for Glasgow. We will know for sure in about 26 hours. See you there. Have a safe trip and enjoy Bowling Green. If you like New Orleans style dining, I would suggest checking out 440's on the square. Great atmosphere and fantastic cuisine.

 

I think what is lost in the translation is not the comparison of performance against a common opponent (Somerset), but the postings of that common opponent's fan base who observed both Glasgow and Holy Cross. After last Friday's game, close to 100% of the ones I have seen favor HC tomorrow. Second, I disagree with your comments on Beechwood. NCC had a lot of size and speed (which is why they were favored to win 2A for the majority of the year). What these three teams (Beechwood, Holy Cross, and NCC) have are balanced attacks. Good defensive teams can usually stop one dimensional opponenets (even "extremely explosive" ones). Glasgow will probably have to put the ball into the air more than usual tomorrow in order to keep up on the scoreboard. Finally, thanks for the dining tips.

I think what is lost in the translation is not the comparison of performance against a common opponent (Somerset), but the postings of that common opponent's fan base who observed both Glasgow and Holy Cross. After last Friday's game, close to 100% of the ones I have seen favor HC tomorrow. Second, I disagree with your comments on Beechwood. NCC had a lot of size and speed (which is why they were favored to win 2A for the majority of the year). What these three teams (Beechwood, Holy Cross, and NCC) have are balanced attacks. Good defensive teams can usually stop one dimensional opponenets (even "extremely explosive" ones). Glasgow will probably have to put the ball into the air more than usual tomorrow in order to keep up on the scoreboard. Finally, thanks for the dining tips.

 

You're welcome for the dining tip. Its worth a trip. As far as the game is concerned, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. The only 2 comments I have seen from those that saw both games live were Avg Joe and Jumper Dad. One picked CHC, the other did not pick. As a Glasgow fan, I watched this same team pass 40% of the time last year and do it very effectively. They just haven't had to this year. The "extremely explosive" comment was made with regard to the entire offense...not just one segment. But talk is cheap and respect is earned. It's time to settle this on the field.

Let's not get carried away. From a 69-26 loss to a victory? They haven't improved that much and aren't quite that good. I am glad for their success and am rooting for them to bring a title to N. Ky.

VOR, you forget how close that game was at halftime. The score is very deceiving, Beechwood poured it on and then some in the 2nd half, If I'm correct it was 16-14 BW at half last game, and this is a completely different HC team, that actually plays a full game now. If they held BW to 16 points in the 1st half while playing decent-mediocre, I think they would definitely have a chance. But as you said, let's not thread jack with this argument, and hopefully HC brings home a state title to NKY. I'll be rooting for them.

11hdcp ... thanks for the good breakdown on the Somerset score comparisons.

 

I will echo the comments by nkypete above concerning NewCath. They have speed in a very good RB and a great QB and NewCath had one of the best lines Beechwood saw all year. To me, this game is the most interesting one of the title games this weekend. I think Holy Cross will win as long as they keep their focus, composure and once again overcome the adversity they will surely face at some point in the game tomorrow.

Should be a great game

Massey ranks Glasgow #17 in state and HC at #21

Massey predicts Glasgow 28-27

Maxpreps rates HC 32.8 (#1 in 2A) and Glasgow 31.0 (#2)

One common opponant is very telling

Somerset 14-7 Glasgow VS 48-14 HC

The Indians are red hot lately and will be hard to stop.

They will need to control the excess penalties they had last week

Holy Cross looks well positioned to...

--finish runner up in district then

--defeat defending champ and #1 ranked team

--defeat previously 11-0 team

--defeat previously 14-0 team

I can't believe a 3 loss team has 78% of the vote vs an undefeated team thats been ranked considerably higher most of the year. Really?

I got back a little while ago from a street rally at the Holy Cross "campus" in Latonia. The place was electric! Church St. was packed with parents, adults, students, cheerleaders, alumni, etc. News crews were there. The motor coach pulled up and all the players got out to mingle in the crowd for a few moments! Koz fired up the crowd via a bullhorn. Trunnell gave us a bit of his "Crossback" rap. Lots of tears and hugs. As the coach pulled out along with the equipment trucks, five vehicles of Kenton County's finest with flashing lights and sirens blaring led them through Latonia and up the hill to I-275! HC has never seen anything like this. There was a student pep rally earlier in the day. What an atmosphere! By the way, I want to mention something I heard tonight from a teacher at HC. Apparently, there was a sizable delivery of Edible Arrangements at the school today. There was a card with it that basically said "good luck in the state championship game....from your good friends at......................NCC"! Nothing but class! Let's bring back a win, Indians! NKY rocks!

I can't believe a 3 loss team has 78% of the vote vs an undefeated team thats been ranked considerably higher most of the year. Really?

Not an HC fan but you need to look at the caliber of the teams they lost to, no duds in there.

I got back a little while ago from a street rally at the Holy Cross "campus" in Latonia. The place was electric! Church St. was packed with parents, adults, students, cheerleaders, alumni, etc. News crews were there. The motor coach pulled up and all the players got out to mingle in the crowd for a few moments! Koz fired up the crowd via a bullhorn. Trunnell gave us a bit of his "Crossback" rap. Lots of tears and hugs. As the coach pulled out along with the equipment trucks, five vehicles of Kenton County's finest with flashing lights and sirens blaring led them through Latonia and up the hill to I-275! HC has never seen anything like this. There was a student pep rally earlier in the day. What an atmosphere! By the way, I want to mention something I heard tonight from a teacher at HC. Apparently, there was a sizable delivery of Edible Arrangements at the school today. There was a card with it that basically said "good luck in the state championship game....from your good friends at......................NCC"! Nothing but class! Let's bring back a win, Indians! NKY rocks!

Nkypete, you know Newcath loves you guys. Good luck and see you down there!

Not an HC fan but you need to look at the caliber of the teams they lost to, no duds in there.

 

Yeah, but, they lost those 3 by an average of 27 pts.. Plus, you have a team thats given up 2 1/2 times the points that there opponent has, who, arguably, have played a better schedule with CAL, Green Co, Bardstown, Murray, Somerset, Monroe. Thats not a guggernaut schedule, but, its not bad either. Are there that many more NKy folks voting on here?

Yeah, but, they lost those 3 by an average of 27 pts.. Plus, you have a team thats given up 2 1/2 times the points that there opponent has, who, arguably, have played a better schedule with CAL, Green Co, Bardstown, Murray, Somerset, Monroe. Thats not a guggernaut schedule, but, its not bad either. Are there that many more NKy folks voting on here?

Well last year their was a 2 loss team playing an undefeated and the final was 42-0 so I don't think the undefeated holds much water. In fairness though I haven't seen Glasgow play unlike last year, where I was able to see both play prior. Last year I felt it was easy to see what the outcome would be. I hope it's a good game cuz I'm driving a long way to see it. Good luck to HC players and fans.

I'm a crossback:D