I was trying to get to the point that, IMO, sadly the black community is still heavily in poverty, high rates of unemployment, pregnancy rates are among the highest. Who have they voted for in the past 40-50 years? Their conditions have not changed. So my point is, the people they are voting in, are not doing what is best for them.

 

Understood. Lots of folks are of the belief that "liberal policies" are to blame.

 

My guess - and it's strictly a guess - is that blacks in general believe that the alternative would be worse for them.

 

 

And to assume that only liberal democrats have been voted in for the past 40-50 years would be grossly inaccurate.

I would estimate that Ann Coulter & I take the same stands on almost every major political issue. But listening to or watching her is a very painful experience & something I altogether try to avoid. The focal point of this thread is yet another example at why I've come to that conclusion.

 

That & she has two of the most disgusting hands I've ever seen.

Take ANY demographic - conservative blacks, liberal blacks, atheist wrestlers - and there will be some members thereof who will be "impressive" (by just about anyone's standard), some that will be whatever the opposite of impressive is, and a bunch that fall somewhere within a standard deviation of the mean. Bell curve stuff.

 

It's the use of "our and their" - as opposed to "conservative and liberal; Republican and Democrat", etc. that is such a turn-off to many of us. Particulary those of us old enough to remember newsreel footage of blacks being pressure-washed by the likes of Bull Connor.

 

Either Coulter is ignorant or divisive. My money is on door #2.

BGP's atheist wrestlers are the most impressive there is!

I would estimate that Ann Coulter & I take the same stands on almost every major political issue. But listening to or watching her is a very painful experience & something I altogether try to avoid. The focal point of this thread is yet another example at why I've come to that conclusion.

 

That & she has two of the most disgusting hands I've ever seen.

 

Smart woman. Educated. Loves the role of right-wing villain. Getting paid.

 

Agree completely on looking at her. I am no more attracted to her than I am to Bill O.

Smart woman. Educated. Loves the role of right-wing villain. Getting paid.

 

Agree completely on looking at her. I am no more attracted to her than I am to Bill O.

 

"You like a lot of other older people...." Rough

:lol: No disrespect intended.

 

While being young and part of a generation that doesn't really have a lot of experience with racism (although many young blacks would disagree) I get where you're coming from. However, that same viewpoint IMO is why you dont understand how words like this can cause the hair on the back of a black person's neck to stand up.

I know it is mentally and physically impossible for me to fully grasp the concept of racism in the 50's and 60's. However I had an experience most white people growing up in the country don't get. I was always around the atmosphere where there were more black than white people. Mostly due to boxing and my father owning a boxing gym. Considering that there are much more black people in the sport, he has more black friends than he does white whom I was around all the time. I would like to think I understand it as much as I am capable of as a teenage white boy growing up in Kentucky.

Take ANY demographic - conservative blacks, liberal blacks, atheist wrestlers - and there will be some members thereof who will be "impressive" (by just about anyone's standard), some that will be whatever the opposite of impressive is, and a bunch that fall somewhere within a standard deviation of the mean. Bell curve stuff.

 

It's the use of "our and their" - as opposed to "conservative and liberal; Republican and Democrat", etc. that is such a turn-off to many of us. Particulary those of us old enough to remember newsreel footage of blacks being pressure-washed by the likes of Bull Connor.

 

Either Coulter is ignorant or divisive. My money is on door #2.

 

I have many words to describe Ann Coulter, divisive is the only one I can use on BGP.

The “our blacks” comment is out of touch. It’s the sort of thing that was part of the vernacular in the era of segregation. You don’t hear people say “our blacks in Kentucky are so much better than the ones in Ohio.” She may not have meant it maliciously (then again, it is Ann Coulter we are talking about), but it is obtuse.

 

However, her saying that racism does not exist unless you are a conservative isn’t simply out of touch, it’s ignorant, depraved, and purposefully antagonizing. To say that race no longer plays a role in society, all the ills of the past have been cured, and the lingering effects have been stamped out requires you to live, as Clyde said, in a different world than the one I inhabit. I imagine there are some who would use sharper language than that. And why does she say this? Because she wants to score some political points. To Coulter and her ilk, race and racism don’t exist in reality; they are just another issue for partisans to divvy up sides. I shudder to think there are people who not only believe that, but want to be on her side.

 

I’m also all for giving people the benefit of the doubt. People misspeak or don’t mean to come across as they do. Mistakes happen. But, Coulter (and Limbaugh, Ingraham, etc.) have been saying these things on race for years. This wasn’t an aberration.

When was the last time Ann Coulter had credibilty on any subject?

PurplePride said that our blacks were not as impressive. Is he racist?

 

He gets a pass, its just not the same, people don't talk about our whites and that's evidence that race is still a major issue in the US today. Don't see it changing any time soon either because its not just "the whites" that do it.

Marvel, you're a good young man from all indications on here. I mean that.

 

However, you're too young to appreciate the impact that words have especially when it comes to "blacks."

 

Blacks are not owned by any one or any group. Any wording using any hint of ownership even as innocent as this one was is ignorant. While in another thread many assumed I was a black man I am not. However, I'm smart enough to know that if I were a black man I sure as heck do not want some white chick using "our blacks" in ANY CONTEXT.

 

She is an intelligent person. I can't stand her. I think she is 100% symbolic of the problems we have when it comes to the vitriol in today's politics. She should be smart enough (and she is) to know what words to use.

 

To your "tit for tat" comment regarding Harry Reid I say "absolutely."

 

Black men and women still pick out the code words and the intended or unintended slights like Mr Reid gave.

 

This is pure ignorance and simply inexcusable.

 

This.

If anyone is confused as to why nearly 90% or more of black voters do not support Republican candidates, the fact that sentiments such as these are expressed by prominent conservative voices is Exhibit A.

 

And this.

Would you consider Colin Powell or Condoleezza Rice to be "intellectual blacks"?

 

Colin Powell is impressive and is perceived to be highly intelligent as well. I would vote for Colin Powell with little or no thought. I think he would make an excellent POTUS.

 

Condoleeza Rice is perceived to be an intellectual but I have never been impressed by her whatsoever. Her close ties to the Bush regime probably cloud my view of her. I would never vote for Condoleeza Rice for anything.

 

Michael Steele is another highly intelligent man but I despise him.

 

JC Watts seems kind of Herman Cainish to me.

 

 

Are there any others out there?

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PurplePride said that our blacks were not as impressive. Is he racist?

 

No. Now, I do participate in many numerous off color jokes and dialogues about all races. I love racial humor(no one misses Dave Chappelle more than I do) but I am disgusted when it becomes real. It makes no sense to me.

I already stated that Coulter nailed the reason. I think it's very impressive to go outside the box of one's family, friends, environment, culture, whatever you want to call it.

 

And yes, I obviously agree with black conservatives more than black liberals.

 

 

It is very impressive to go against the grain. I used to go against the grain all of the time just to argue. Maybe one day black conservatives can put some substance behind their words, thoughts and beliefs instead of simply going against the grain.

 

To go even further, if Obama was a republican I would have still voted for him. I have been highly impressed with him since day one. Colin Powell is another that I would vote for regardless of party line.

 

I would not vote for Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Marion Barry, Herman Cain, JC Watts, Condoleeza Rice, Michael Steele and quite a few other black politicians regardless of their party affiliation.