Perhaps, as long as it doesn't take away from the educational experience of the students.

 

Agreed. If there's administration/teachers/coaches/personnel that knew about it, and covered it up...they should be gone. Sad to say, but it's whats needs to be done. But to say you're gonna saddle the school district with a hefty lawsuit that's going to do nothing but negatively impact every other student in the district for years to come is wrong. You'd be punishing the wrong (and innocent) people. Take your lawsuit and target it to the people that actually were in the wrong.

1. NewCath was not in the dark to the situation.

2. (from my source) 2 other schools told them no.

3. The Administration at NewCath could give "2 squirts of urine" how he fit into the pitching rotation.

4. With all the schools to choose from are you kidding, Newport?

 

So your first statement says they were not in the dark about the incident but they were in the dark about the type of athlete he was and the fact that he could help their baseball team? I'm sure when they all sat down baseball was never brought up and they probably told him he would have to make the team as well. LOL

Sugercoat it all you want, NCC turned a blind eye and knew the heat they would take due to his athletic status. The reward seems to have definitely outweighed the risk they took.

4. With all the schools to choose from are you kidding, Newport?

 

Maybe, but it has been stated that the younger Sullivan is enrolled in Newport Schools now.

Maybe, but it has been stated that the younger Sullivan is enrolled in Newport Schools now.

 

My point exactly not to mention the long history the elder Sullivan has with Newport schools.

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So your first statement says they were not in the dark about the incident but they were in the dark about the type of athlete he was and the fact that he could help their baseball team? I'm sure when they all sat down baseball was never brought up and they probably told him he would have to make the team as well. LOL

Sugercoat it all you want, NCC turned a blind eye and knew the heat they would take due to his athletic status. The reward seems to have definitely outweighed the risk they took.

 

NewCath afforded him the chance to finish high school, regardless of his athletic talents. Yes they knew of ALL the "allegations", and at the time that's all they were. Was the kid a saint??? Hell no, but the kid was read the "riot act", that if he even looked at someone the wrong way he was gone. I have a daugther roaming the hallways at NewCath and I didn't have a problem with it. Would you have had a problem with it if he would have been at your beloved Highlands????? No wait, that's one of the schools that said no to him.

 

I understand it was a very awkward situation for all parties involved, but what do you do??????

Agreed. If there's administration/teachers/coaches/personnel that knew about it, and covered it up...they should be gone. Sad to say, but it's whats needs to be done. But to say you're gonna saddle the school district with a hefty lawsuit that's going to do nothing but negatively impact every other student in the district for years to come is wrong. You'd be punishing the wrong (and innocent) people. Take your lawsuit and target it to the people that actually were in the wrong.

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NewCath afforded him the chance to finish high school, regardless of his athletic talents. Yes they knew of ALL the "allegations", and at the time that's all they were. Was the kid a saint??? Hell no, but the kid was read the "riot act", that if he even looked at someone the wrong way he was gone. I have a daugther roaming the hallways at NewCath and I didn't have a problem with it. Would you have had a problem with it if he would have been at your beloved Highlands????? No wait, that's one of the schools that said no to him.

 

I understand it was a very awkward situation for all parties involved, but what do you do??????

 

Is there even a question what you do???? I think it is pretty obvious.

NewCath afforded him the chance to finish high school, regardless of his athletic talents. Yes they knew of ALL the "allegations", and at the time that's all they were. Was the kid a saint??? Hell no, but the kid was read the "riot act", that if he even looked at someone the wrong way he was gone. I have a daugther roaming the hallways at NewCath and I didn't have a problem with it. Would you have had a problem with it if he would have been at your beloved Highlands????? No wait, that's one of the schools that said no to him.

 

I understand it was a very awkward situation for all parties involved, but what do you do??????

 

I actually don't have a problem with him being allowed to finish up high school. I think he is a good kid from a solid family who made a really terrible mistake. However, I think it is naive to think that athletics wasn't a driving factor in the schools he looked at attending. I am not quite sure that he should have been allowed to participate in athletics at whatever school admitted him.

 

He did have other options as far as finishing school. He could have taken the Zeke Pike route and finished up with on line classes or just picked up his GED.

 

From the outside looking in it does appear that NCC turned a somewhat blind eye to the ongoing case. It would be interesting to see if a non athlete facing a potential felony conviction in a similar type case would have gained admission to NCC?

I think he is a good kid from a solid family who made a really terrible mistake.

 

"Good" kid????

 

"Solid" family????

 

Really????

I actually don't have a problem with him being allowed to finish up high school. I think he is a good kid from a solid family who made a really terrible mistake. However, I think it is naive to think that athletics wasn't a driving factor in the schools he looked at attending. I am not quite sure that he should have been allowed to participate in athletics at whatever school admitted him. He did have other options as far as finishing school. He could have taken the Zeke Pike route and finished up with on line classes or just picked up his GED.

 

From the outside looking in it does appear that NCC turned a somewhat blind eye to the ongoing case. It would be interesting to see if a non athlete facing a potential felony conviction in a similar type case would have gained admission to NCC?

 

 

You would be correct on your first point, does seem that way. To answer the second I would say YES.

"Good" kid????

 

"Solid" family????

 

Really????

 

Exactly, once is a mistake, twice is a pattern.

But to say you're gonna saddle the school district with a hefty lawsuit that's going to do nothing but negatively impact every other student in the district for years to come is wrong. You'd be punishing the wrong (and innocent) people.

 

Then those who are not innocent should resign so that a lawsuit may be spared. Once again IF, and its a big If, everything is as it was reported.

"Good" kid????

 

"Solid" family????

 

Really????

 

Just my opinion....I have known the family for many years but would not consider it a close relationship. I have had the opportunity to speak with Vance over the years at sporting events and found him to be a respectful, engaging young man. Based on my interactions with the family and Vance I would consider this to have been a case of really poor judgement and a mistake that will be with him for a very long time. I think that the family of the victim and the victim will also suffer greatly thru this case. There are no winners in these types of situations.

Then those who are not innocent should resign so that a lawsuit may be spared. Once again IF, and its a big If, everything is as it was reported.

 

Yes, it does boil down to who knew what, and when, and what they did afterwards. So, making some assumptions here on a broad scope. But, if there are people who were "wrong" in the actions, do you really expect them to suddenly have a change in heart and "do the right thing" and resign so that they can save the school? I doubt it. The ones who will resign will be the ones who do so, only because you started firing the others, and they'll do it more to "save face" than to help the school district out.

 

Unfortunately, even if everyone who is in the "wrong" DID resign, and there was no one left at the school who had any knowledge/responsibility in the incident, I would STILL expect a lawsuit filed against the school district. No offense meant to any of our lawyers here on BGP, but it seems like lawsuits like these always include a "big fish" that has the most potential money, whether they're culpable or not. A school teacher who makes $40k, or an administrator who makes twice that, is small potatoes compared to the school district as a whole. Shoot, it wouldn't surprise me if the state board of education isn't thought of as a potential target.

 

But, bottom line is that IF everyone associated with the incident is no longer at the school...then saddling the school with a large, punitive lawsuit finding, WILL only hurt the wrong people...and those are the students who still attend there.

But, if there are people who were "wrong" in the actions, do you really expect them to suddenly have a change in heart and "do the right thing" and resign so that they can save the school?

 

And isn't that disgusting? Is that not a violation of a most sacred trust between educators, students, and the community?