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Why does a #4 seed defeating a #1 seed legitimize the playoff format?

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I have never understood the argument that simply because a #4 seed defeats a #1 seed how that shows the current playoff format is correct? What am I missing here? Good teams (even at a #4 seed) are not always supposed to make the playoffs... for one, it should be a challenge and honor to even make it.

 

I guess the rationale is that because there are some really weak districts, other districts deserve the benefit of getting in there stronger teams to even things out? If that is the case I wish the state would come up with an alternative method of selecting teams or have the region somehow seeded.

The logic is that the idea is to crown (as champion) the team playing the best ball at the end of the season, and some teams peak late. We have had many teams make strong runs in the playoffs after entering as a #4 seed...I believe SK was a four seed when they went to the finals two years ago, for example.

The logic is that the idea is to crown (as champion) the team playing the best ball at the end of the season, and some teams peak late. We have had many teams make strong runs in the playoffs after entering as a #4 seed...I believe SK was a four seed when they went to the finals two years ago, for example.

 

Exactly.

 

Paducah Tilghman was a 3 or 4 seed last year when they made their run to the title. Bourbon County (one that people tend to forget) was a 3 or 4 seed back in '97 when they won the Class AA title.

 

I'll have to go back and check my history, but I know there have been several other 3 and 4 seeds make region finals appearances. Have there been near as many when compared to 1 and 2 seeds? No. But, theres been enough IMO opinion to keep a 4 teams advancing from each district. However, I will say that it needs be in the old 4 class system, but we all know that is another story.

The logic is that the idea is to crown (as champion) the team playing the best ball at the end of the season, and some teams peak late. We have had many teams make strong runs in the playoffs after entering as a #4 seed...I believe SK was a four seed when they went to the finals two years ago, for example.

 

And SK did have a good playoff run, but were absolutely obliteratred in the finals.............the Pioneers had the biggest benefit of playing in the opposite bracket from the Shamrocks.

What about when there is a 3 way tie for a playoff spot? Is it really fair to settle something like that on number of wins of defeated opponents or a coin flip? At least this way all 3 teams will get into the playoffs. All the other sports allow all the teams to make the playoffs, why does it hurt for it to happen in football?

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The logic is that the idea is to crown (as champion) the team playing the best ball at the end of the season, and some teams peak late. We have had many teams make strong runs in the playoffs after entering as a #4 seed...I believe SK was a four seed when they went to the finals two years ago, for example.

 

Exactly.

 

Paducah Tilghman was a 3 or 4 seed last year when they made their run to the title. Bourbon County (one that people tend to forget) was a 3 or 4 seed back in '97 when they won the Class AA title.

 

I'll have to go back and check my history, but I know there have been several other 3 and 4 seeds make region finals appearances. Have there been near as many when compared to 1 and 2 seeds? No. But, theres been enough IMO opinion to keep a 4 teams advancing from each district. However, I will say that it needs be in the old 4 class system, but we all know that is another story.

Again, you guys are just restating what I said. I realize there have been some teams in years past to make deep runs, but I do not understand why that is reason enough to say what takes place is correct. For every Bourbon County or Paducah Tilghman, there are 200 blowouts with teams not worthy of entrance. The best teams do not always win in sports. Injuries occur. Some never catch their stride until late in the season.

If they were awarding trophys by the seed number there would be no reason to play any games. You always have a chance when you play the games.

True, but why knock KIDS out of a chance to do something they will remember for the rest of their life becuase some ADULTS don't like the margin of victory in some games. Why doesn't the NCAA tournament just cut out all of the 12-16 seeds? Because upsets happen and we love it when they do.

:deadhorse: Another day, another thread about the football playoffs. I think we all should just agree to disagree on this one.

 

Some people want a limited number of teams in the football playoffs. Some want fewer in the playoffs than others.

 

Others, like myself, want the playoffs to be open to all teams to prove themselves and believe #4 seeds winning playoff games proves why these student athletes should get to prove themselves on the field.

 

I can not understand the limited teams people. They don't understand the open playoffs people.

 

And neither of us are changing our minds. :walk:

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:deadhorse: Another day, another thread about the football playoffs. I think we all should just agree to disagree on this one.

 

Some people want a limited number of teams in the football playoffs. Some want fewer in the playoffs than others.

 

Others, like myself, want the playoffs to be open to all teams to prove themselves and believe #4 seeds winning playoff games proves why these student athletes should get to prove themselves on the field.

 

I can not understand the limited teams people. They don't understand the open playoffs people.

 

And neither of us are changing our minds. :walk:

I am fine with letting in every team.
:deadhorse: Another day, another thread about the football playoffs. I think we all should just agree to disagree on this one.

 

Some people want a limited number of teams in the football playoffs. Some want fewer in the playoffs than others.

 

Others, like myself, want the playoffs to be open to all teams to prove themselves and believe #4 seeds winning playoff games proves why these student athletes should get to prove themselves on the field.

 

I can not understand the limited teams people. They don't understand the open playoffs people.

 

And neither of us are changing our minds. :walk:

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:deadhorse: Another day, another thread about the football playoffs. I think we all should just agree to disagree on this one.

 

Some people want a limited number of teams in the football playoffs. Some want fewer in the playoffs than others.

 

Others, like myself, want the playoffs to be open to all teams to prove themselves and believe #4 seeds winning playoff games proves why these student athletes should get to prove themselves on the field.

 

I can not understand the limited teams people. They don't understand the open playoffs people.

 

And neither of us are changing our minds. :walk:

 

I tend to agree, but if we took the 6 class system and Highlands out of all discussions what would everyone talk about? :D

 

It could be worse, Kentucky could restrict the playoffs to roughly 28% of the teams like Ohio and then we would have 9-1 teams who don’t make the playoffs. Just imagine the discussion then. :eek:

I tend to agree, but if we took the 6 class system and Highlands out of all discussions what would everyone talk about? :D

 

It could be worse, Kentucky could restrict the playoffs to roughly 28% of the teams like Ohio and then we would have 9-1 teams who don’t make the playoffs. Just imagine the discussion then. :eek:

 

There are quite a few in this discussion in the various threads that would probably be happy with that.

I tend to agree, but if we took the 6 class system and Highlands out of all discussions what would everyone talk about? :D

 

It could be worse, Kentucky could restrict the playoffs to roughly 28% of the teams like Ohio and then we would have 9-1 teams who don’t make the playoffs. Just imagine the discussion then. :eek:

 

In 1984, the #2-ranked team in "State 4A" - Shelby County - didn't make the playoffs because they were in a 3-team district with Oldham County (and Bullitt Central), and Oldham County was the #1-ranked team in "State 4A". Oldham beat Shelby in the final game of the regular season to finish the regular season #1 at 11-0; Shelby finished ranked #2 at 10-1 - and the Rockets stayed home.

 

I remember the discussions well... LOL

This proves that anyone can win at any given time. Someone had something mentioned about Bourbon winning 2A in '97, Simon Kenton made the title game two years ago as a #4 eventhough they lost; same year Bullitt East made 4A title as a lower seed and nearly beat Bell County in what was supposed to be a major blowout. Anything can happen. I can understand the argument that all teams making the playoffs with the current set-up of the system are not good, but others are and have proven that they were deserving of making the post-season.

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