If everyone is going to make the playoffs, then no need to keep score during the regular season. Let's just draw for seeding before the playoffs and everyone will feel good. Yay!

I'm sure it will be District 1 vs. District 2, District 3 vs. District 4, and so on.

 

Future Playoff Pairings

 

It will be that way in every division BUT 6A where it will rotate.

Future Playoff Pairings

 

It will be that way in every division BUT 6A where it will rotate.

 

I don't mind the 6A rotations to be honest, but WHY. Why is 6A different from 1-5. Why are 1A and 6A different in that they're capped at 32 teams? Why is this not more consistant. I don't have a problem with how things have worked out it just seems kind of unnecessary.

That has been my argument for two years, why is only one team in 2A not making the playoffs, and 3 to 5 in the other classes? I have used Indiana as an example and it will only add one week to the playoffs by my figures. If we are going to have 92% make the playoffs, why not include the other 8%?

 

What I like about it is there are the Sectional Champions so this gives you bragging rights and a local Championship but then the 2nd round is the 'State Tournament'. This 2 tier approach would do more for Kentucky HS football than any number of classes or gerrymandering of classes and districts.

 

BTW, if you adopted Indiana's format of 8 teams playing each other for the first round then going into a 2nd round of 8 teams per Class for the state titles you would need only 3 (THREE) Classes to accomodate 192 schools (8 x 8 x 3). To do 100% of the schools - go to 4 classes and grant division winners and maybe runner -ups bye weeks. But the overall schedule would still be only 6 weeks with 4 classes with all 220 or so schools participating. Its not hard to do at all.

 

So Ram, count me in - 4 classes, 8 x 8 format like Indiana. All schools in, 2 levels of Championships.

I don't mind the 6A rotations to be honest, but WHY. Why is 6A different from 1-5. Why are 1A and 6A different in that they're capped at 32 teams? Why is this not more consistant. I don't have a problem with how things have worked out it just seems kind of unnecessary.

 

Doing some looking around I can not find another state that gerrymanders its set-up in this manner. I spent some time on the Indiana and Ohio websites. Indiana has 5 classes, Ohio has 6 Divisions at its highest level. Both divide them up equally. The special setup for 6A, 1A, the special rotation of 6A, the special rule now for 3 team districts in 6A. When does this arbitrary adjusting stop?

As I noted in a post on a similar thread a few years ago that, Basketball and Baseball Playoffs last nearly 4 weeks nearly the same amount of time that the football playoffs last.

Football

Playoffs Started Nov 9

Playoffs Ended Dec 8

29 Days

 

Basketball

Playoffs Started Feb 22

Playoffs Ended March 20

27 Days

 

Baseball

Playoffs Started May 24

Playoffs Ended June 19

27 Days

 

Baseball and Basketball still has 16 teams going the last week of the playoffs and football only has 12 teams still involved the last week of the season.

 

While there are valid arguments on both side of the football playoff debate, I just don't think this is one of them.

There are more schools playing basketball than football, and basketball teams usually play two or three postseason games per week. If every football team made the playoffs, we would have to expand the postseason by another week.

 

Baseball drags out way too long. Last year, some teams had 10 days off between the regional and state tournaments. Softball's postseason is a week shorter than baseball.

That has been my argument for two years, why is only one team in 2A not making the playoffs, and 3 to 5 in the other classes? I have used Indiana as an example and it will only add one week to the playoffs by my figures. If we are going to have 92% make the playoffs, why not include the other 8%?

 

Indiana teams play a 9 week regular season, so the length of the season for the champions is the same. However, that's also one less game than many kids KY would get now. No perfect answer.

Not to mention that one of the basketball state tournaments takes place a week or more after the conclusion of the regional tounaments. If girls' basketball and softball weren't part of the process, basketball and baseball could have their postseasons done in three weeks.

I don't mind the 6A rotations to be honest, but WHY. Why is 6A different from 1-5. Why are 1A and 6A different in that they're capped at 32 teams? Why is this not more consistant. I don't have a problem with how things have worked out it just seems kind of unnecessary.

 

Playoffs rotate for 1 reason and one reason only. It allows teams from different areas to play for the championship without having to go through Trinity or X. If it didn't rotate there would be massive wailing and gnashing of teeth how unfair it is that certain teams are ALWAYS paired with Trinity/X and how unfair it is to those students that they will never get a chance to play for a state championship.

There are more schools playing basketball than football, and basketball teams usually play two or three postseason games per week. If every football team made the playoffs, we would have to expand the postseason by another week.

 

Baseball drags out way too long. Last year, some teams had 10 days off between the regional and state tournaments. Softball's postseason is a week shorter than baseball.

 

My point was that under the current system the playoffs for the Big 3 sports all last about the same length of time. If time and length of the playoffs is such an issue why not just allow District Champs to advance in baseball and basketball, then those playoffs could be shortened a week each.

My point was that under the current system the playoffs for the Big 3 sports all last about the same length of time.

But the situations aren't comparable ... basketball and baseball run concurrently with girls' sports, which stretches both of their postseasons.

If time and length of the playoffs is such an issue why not just allow District Champs to advance in baseball and basketball, then those playoffs could be shortened a week each.

How? That wouldn't shorten it at all, given the current format.

Will 5 team districts have a bye week for each team during district play (weeks 5-9)?

Indiana teams play a 9 week regular season, so the length of the season for the champions is the same. However, that's also one less game than many kids KY would get now. No perfect answer.

 

Under the Indiana system all kids get 10 games since all teams make the playoffs. In Kentucky, teams that do not make the playoffs only get 10 games. So its not really a take away to shorten the season by 1 week and ensure all teams make the playoffs.

Playoffs rotate for 1 reason and one reason only. It allows teams from different areas to play for the championship without having to go through Trinity or X. If it didn't rotate there would be massive wailing and gnashing of teeth how unfair it is that certain teams are ALWAYS paired with Trinity/X and how unfair it is to those students that they will never get a chance to play for a state championship.

 

So the lesson to kids across the state is:

 

"When the odds are against you, instead of getting better in playing the actual game use political power and rules modification to change the odds."

 

Before 1987 every Jefferson County school knew it would have to go through one of these powers to play in a state final. It did not seem be the inhibitor to the sport.

 

So there is no chance for a 6A school to get by these 2 so you have gerrymander around them?

 

Do not tell that to the players of '00 Male, '98 Male, '96 Nelson County, '91 Clark County, '87 Shelby County, '84 Ballard, '82 Southern, '81 DeSales, '79 Butler or '70 Butler.

This "super district" will be like 7th region basketball. Harder to come out of your district/region than it is to win the state tournament. T, X, & H will beat up each other in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, and then have potentially running clocks in the semi-finals and finals. Whatever. :idunno: