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Track the Reds (Week 14)

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Who me? Never! :D

 

I'm glad you took it that way rather than being hostile. My point came out wrong. Sometimes you don't even agree w/ the point you are arguing just b/c you think Dusty takes too much heat. I agree that the people that criticize him usually don't give him his due credit some times. I think that's your biggest point.

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I'm glad you took it that way rather than being hostile. My point came out wrong. Sometimes you don't even agree w/ the point you are arguing just b/c you think Dusty takes too much heat. I agree that the people that criticize him usually don't give him his due credit some times. I think that's your biggest point.

 

:thumb: My main thing is a lot of these "dumb" decisions are only judged as such based on the outcome. If Maloney gets Bay out, and he had given me no indication that he couldn't/wouldn't, we aren't having this debate. Most of these issues there is no clear cut right or wrong decision. If he had taken Maloney out, I have no problem with it, but I most certainly don't have a problem with him leaving him in in that situation either.

:thumb: My main thing is a lot of these "dumb" decisions are only judged as such based on the outcome. If Maloney gets Bay out, and he had given me no indication that he couldn't/wouldn't, we aren't having this debate. Most of these issues there is no clear cut right or wrong decision. If he had taken Maloney out, I have no problem with it, but I most certainly don't have a problem with him leaving him in in that situation either.

 

While I can agree w/ that you also took up for him when he left a pitcher in to hit and the pitcher didn't throw another pitch that game last week. There may not be an exact right answer for every situation, but there are moves or non moves that give you the best chance to win. I think righty vs. righty there would have given them the best chance to get out of that inning. Obviously Maloney still had a chance to get them out of the inning there. I hate a lot of the decisions he makes, but I think I would love playing for him. That is a lot to do w/ managing so he deserves credit for that no doubt.

While I can agree w/ that you also took up for him when he left a pitcher in to hit and the pitcher didn't throw another pitch that game last week. There may not be an exact right answer for every situation, but there are moves or non moves that give you the best chance to win. I think righty vs. righty there would have given them the best chance to get out of that inning. Obviously Maloney still had a chance to get them out of the inning there. I hate a lot of the decisions he makes, but I think I would love playing for him. That is a lot to do w/ managing so he deserves credit for that no doubt.

 

To be fair to me, I also said I didn't agree with that decision, just that it didn't cost them the game. If you start saying that kind of stuff, you're playing the "what if" game.

 

As far as yesterday's game goes, I could make an arguement that Votto cost the Reds teh game because he couldn't make contact with a runner at third and only one out in the first. That's a matter of simple "what if", which is a game that we could play all day long to no end.

While I would like to have Cliff Lee, he is a phenomenal pitcher that is better than anyone the Reds have, there are more glaring needs. The Reds could use some outfield help or a utility infielder to help give guys like Cabrera, Rolen, and Gomes some breaks. Maybe a guy like Uribe from the Giants or Wigginton from the Orioles.

 

Don't forget the Nats have put Adam Dunn on the market!! :laugh:

 

That was a joke.

 

Since you posted this yesterday....Adam is one day closer to retirement.

Since you posted this yesterday....Adam is one day closer to retirement.

 

Ok?

To be fair to me, I also said I didn't agree with that decision, just that it didn't cost them the game. If you start saying that kind of stuff, you're playing the "what if" game.

 

As far as yesterday's game goes, I could make an arguement that Votto cost the Reds teh game because he couldn't make contact with a runner at third and only one out in the first. That's a matter of simple "what if", which is a game that we could play all day long to no end.

 

It didn't cost them the game, but it was a poor decision that did not give the team the best chance to win the game. It's basically semantics...

It didn't cost them the game, but it was a poor decision that did not give the team the best chance to win the game. It's basically semantics...

 

Exactly. The whole thing is putting your team in the best positions to win close games.

I don't mind using Cordero at all. I won't complain about Dusty on that.

 

Cordero loves making things difficult though.

Why not leave Bronson in...so dumb

 

They're paying a closer 12 million, they better let him do his job.

 

Arroyo was probably gassed anyway. 100 pitches in the kind of heat NY is having is brutal

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