June 16, 201016 yr I hate to say it because I completely cheered against them every chance I could, but I really don't think that this discussion is complete if John Stockton and Karl Malone are left out. That doesn't mean I'd vote for them, but they certainly deserved to be mentioned. With all that said I voted for Kareem and Magic.
June 16, 201016 yr If Kobe and Shaq could have coexisted longer they'd easily be the best duo, IMO. Not to turn this into a Kobe and Shaq vs. Jordan and Pippen conversation, but couldn't you say the same about them. If Jordan didn't leave for two seasons and the ownership didn't end the amazing team in 98 they could have many more championships under their belt... You never know, that is why you can't base discussions and arguements on ifs.
June 17, 201016 yr Not to turn this into a Kobe and Shaq vs. Jordan and Pippen conversation, but couldn't you say the same about them. If Jordan didn't leave for two seasons and the ownership didn't end the amazing team in 98 they could have many more championships under their belt... You never know, that is why you can't base discussions and arguements on ifs. True but I do believe that if MJ hadn't left for two years and the management hadn't gotten utterly stupid then it wouldn't have mattered if Shaq and Kobe could coexist.
June 17, 201016 yr I'll go with Kareem and Magic. Both would have been absolute superstars without the other IMO. Pippen crumbled without Jordan. It's hard to compare stuff like this though. It's like the whole Montana was only good because of Rice and vice versa....who knows really. I just think at the end of the day Magic and Kareem are the two I'd pick if starting a team.
June 17, 201016 yr I'll go with Kareem and Magic. Both would have been absolute superstars without the other IMO. Pippen crumbled without Jordan. It's hard to compare stuff like this though. It's like the whole Montana was only good because of Rice and vice versa....who knows really. I just think at the end of the day Magic and Kareem are the two I'd pick if starting a team. While I agree mostly wih your post, I wouldn't say Pippen crumbled without MJ. He was still a great player he just didn't win a title without him.
June 17, 201016 yr It's comical that you all say Pippen is overrated. He couldve easily been a the main guy on a team. Look at his stats when Jordan went and played baseball
June 17, 201016 yr If NBA titles is the measuring stick, Russell and Havlicek win and it isn't even close. Yes, they won 6 together but Russell won 5 other titles. He only missed the NBA finals one season out of his 13 season career. Havlicek won 2 titles without Russell and was the finals MVP in one of those. Both players won titles together and won titles without the other. This one isn't close people. Russell may be the most underrated great player of all time. Most people probably wouldn't put him in their top 5 players of all time but how can you ignore 11 titles in 13 seasons with a changing cast around him? Everyone is focused on individual stats but it is a team game and winning titles is the goal of every player. Russell is undeniably the greatest champion ever and even if Jordan had two more titles in the seasons he missed, he still would be 3 behind Russell.
June 17, 201016 yr Magic/Kareem trumps MJ/Pippen for this reason. 3 of them are considered to be in the top 10 or so of all-time. Pippen isn't.
June 17, 201016 yr Magic/Kareem trumps MJ/Pippen for this reason. 3 of them are considered to be in the top 10 or so of all-time. Pippen isn't. Which makes MJ/SP's accomplishments all the more spectacular.
June 17, 201016 yr Which makes MJ/SP's accomplishments all the more spectacular. The question is greatest duo. Championships are irrelevant since there are so many variables. I'm looking at it as a greatest 2 individuals. So, by that measure, MJ loses because of Pippen.
June 17, 201016 yr Which makes MJ/SP's accomplishments all the more spectacular. Hank and Tommy Aaron are the best home-run-hitting brothers duo?
June 17, 201016 yr After reading up on stats, etc.....I say Jordan and Pippen are tops, but I can't decide if it could've been Jordan and another extremely athletic forward of the time as well.
June 17, 201016 yr I'll take Jordan and Pippen. Six titles ties them for most on the list and they had the best win percentage. But, more impressive to me is that they were both perimeter players with no dominant big man and they were still able to dominate the league for more than half a decade. Every other duo consists of one major post player. Very good point. I had not thought about that. I voted Cousy/Russell, but given this, may want to change my vote to Jordan/Pippen.
June 17, 201016 yr I'm confused... Didn't you recently post that in the other thread? I thought I had posted my response. I guess I didn't. Oh well. Here goes. Pippen>Gasol.
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