There may be a kid here or there attending JCPS that lives in Indiana. From my experience in high school, it certainly wasn't widespread (I didn't know anyone in my 340-member graduating class that was from outside of Jeff County) and I strongly doubt that sports is a motivating factor.

 

Private school supporters act like if there is one student in JCPS from across the river, that legitimizes the numerous impact players from Indiana they have on their teams. Trinity's rushing and scoring leader apparently calls Jeffersonville, IN home.

 

I don't understand all this grief about a kid living across the river going to a private school in Louisville. I suggest that district boundaries be based on Louisville's MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area), which is used for business measurements. Louisville's consists of Jefferson, Bullitt & Oldham in KY along with Clark, Floyd, Harrison, and Scott in IN. If a kid, public or private, lives in that MSA he/she should be able to attend the school of his/her choice in the MSA.

 

And aside from that argument, did said player above attend Catholic grade school in IN?

I do not know of anyone who does live in IN but goes to a Louisville public school. However, if someone was doing that I am sure they would not list the IN address as their official residence. There is no way they would be allowed in a Louisville public school, but, people do skirt the rules sometimes, especially in the case of a divorce for example. I can understand why a student would want to finish High School with their friends, especially with the family life in turmoil. It just happend at South Oldham.

I don't understand all this grief about a kid living across the river going to a private school in Louisville. I suggest that district boundaries be based on Louisville's MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area), which is used for business measurements. Louisville's consists of Jefferson, Bullitt & Oldham in KY along with Clark, Floyd, Harrison, and Scott in IN. If a kid, public or private, lives in that MSA he/she should be able to attend the school of his/her choice in the MSA.

 

And aside from that argument, did said player above attend Catholic grade school in IN?

 

The grief is about the gross inequity in territorial areas of publics and privates. One county to draw from compared with 12-13 counties (some out of state) is not even close to being balanced. The idea of using the MSA is not much different than the status quo--essentially no meaningful boundaries for private schools.

 

Now I have heard the argument that publics impose their own limitations on residency that result in this imbalance. There have been (rather flippant) suggestions that publics should stop complaining and open their doors to kids from anywhere and everywhere to do away with this situation. But let's be honest here--to completely eliminate residency requirements of all types for a public school system would be extremely unrealistic (not to mention prohibitively expensive to administer). Imagine the avalanche of paperwork and clerical complexity needed to account for thousands of students seeking to take their tax-based education funding to another school system and thousands of others seeking to bring their funding in from elsewhere. It would be as significant a structural change for public school systems as the elimination of all financial aid at private schools. Could all of this added expense be politically justified by the objective of improving public school athletic programs? I seriously doubt it.

 

So here we are, dangerously inflexible to compromise solutions--the publics unwilling (and honestly politically unable) to restructure their systems to match the draw of the privates and the privates unwilling to limit the athletic eligibility of kids wanting to play sports from far beyond the range of any public.

The grief is about the gross inequity in territorial areas of publics and privates. One county to draw from compared with 12-13 counties (some out of state) is not even close to being balanced. The idea of using the MSA is not much different than the status quo--essentially no meaningful boundaries for private schools.

 

Now I have heard the argument that publics impose their own limitations on residency that result in this imbalance. There have been (rather flippant) suggestions that publics should stop complaining and open their doors to kids from anywhere and everywhere to do away with this situation. But let's be honest here--to completely eliminate residency requirements of all types for a public school system would be extremely unrealistic (not to mention prohibitively expensive to administer). Imagine the avalanche of paperwork and clerical complexity needed to account for thousands of students seeking to take their tax-based education funding to another school system and thousands of others seeking to bring their funding in from elsewhere. It would be as significant a structural change for public school systems as the elimination of all financial aid at private schools. Could all of this added expense be politically justified by the objective of improving public school athletic programs? I seriously doubt it.

 

So here we are, dangerously inflexible to compromise solutions--the publics unwilling (and honestly politically unable) to restructure their systems to match the draw of the privates and the privates unwilling to limit the athletic eligibility of kids wanting to play sports from far beyond the range of any public.

If the administrative burden of portable funding is too much, just charge tuition. Then you WOULD be on an equal footing with the private schools. The objective of opening up enrollment would not be athletics. The goal would be competition to improve schools.

There may be a kid here or there attending JCPS that lives in Indiana. From my experience in high school, it certainly wasn't widespread (I didn't know anyone in my 340-member graduating class that was from outside of Jeff County) and I strongly doubt that sports is a motivating factor.

 

Private school supporters act like if there is one student in JCPS from across the river, that legitimizes the numerous impact players from Indiana they have on their teams.Trinity's rushing and scoring leader apparently calls Jeffersonville, IN home.

 

Trinity's rushing and scoring leader is also listed in the program as having attended St. Augustine Catholic School in Jeffersonville, IN, so what's the big problem? If he had attended a public grade school then you might have a point but not in this case.

... So here we are, dangerously inflexible to compromise solutions--the publics unwilling (and honestly politically unable) to restructure their systems to match the draw of the privates and the privates unwilling to limit the athletic eligibility of kids wanting to play sports from far beyond the range of any public.

 

And there you have it. In a nutshell, this IS the situation, everyone's wishes notwithstanding.

 

An article that someone posted in another thread put it quite bluntly - considering the current situation (as stated above), something is going to change. 71% (and growing) of the constituency of the KHSAA views this as an inequitable situation (rightly or wrongly is immaterial). The reason that I say "rightly or wrongly" is immaterial is that we live in a Democracy, and consequently, the majority will get its way. If you think the majority is correct, then you smile and pat yourself on the back, telling yourself how wise you are. If you think the majority is wrong, you sulk for a short while, complain about the changes, and then finally make the required adjustments.

 

 

Change is in the air, and it would behoove us all to find the common ground of compromise. Failing that, sooner or later, the legislature will be forced to get involved - and we all know what good things happen when politicians start passing laws ...

 

Frances

Does the Diocese of Louisville extend into southern Indiana

I know it extends down into the Bardstown area.

Does the Diocese of Louisville extend into southern Indiana

 

Everything across the river from Louisville is technically in the Archdiocese of Indianapolis. But it would be virtually impossible (and certainly not economically feasible) for said student to attend a Catholic high school in Indianapolis. Therefore, to continue his Catholic high school education, there should be no problem whatsoever in his attending either T or X. Or DeSales or Holy Cross for that matter.

If the administrative burden of portable funding is too much, just charge tuition. Then you WOULD be on an equal footing with the private schools. The objective of opening up enrollment would not be athletics. The goal would be competition to improve schools.

 

I'm not seeing how turning public schools into de facto private schools by charging tuition would lead to improved schools. I would like to have that one explained to me. Jefferson County already has open enrollment across the entire system--there already is competition in the form of a system-wide marketplace of different schools for students to choose from. I can't see how opening things up (to include neighboring counties, both in-state and out-of-state) by charging tuition would have much of any beneficial effect on the quality of education in the public schools.

Everything across the river from Louisville is technically in the Archdiocese of Indianapolis. But it would be virtually impossible (and certainly not economically feasible) for said student to attend a Catholic high school in Indianapolis. Therefore, to continue his Catholic high school education, there should be no problem whatsoever in his attending either T or X. Or DeSales or Holy Cross for that matter.

I agree wholeheartedly. Parents should be able to send their children to the closest Catholic school if that is their wish. Even if this choice happens to mean the student has to cross a state line .Or in the case of central Ky county lines .

The grief is about the gross inequity in territorial areas of publics and privates. One county to draw from compared with 12-13 counties (some out of state) is not even close to being balanced. The idea of using the MSA is not much different than the status quo--essentially no meaningful boundaries for private schools.

 

Now I have heard the argument that publics impose their own limitations on residency that result in this imbalance. There have been (rather flippant) suggestions that publics should stop complaining and open their doors to kids from anywhere and everywhere to do away with this situation. But let's be honest here--to completely eliminate residency requirements of all types for a public school system would be extremely unrealistic (not to mention prohibitively expensive to administer). Imagine the avalanche of paperwork and clerical complexity needed to account for thousands of students seeking to take their tax-based education funding to another school system and thousands of others seeking to bring their funding in from elsewhere. It would be as significant a structural change for public school systems as the elimination of all financial aid at private schools. Could all of this added expense be politically justified by the objective of improving public school athletic programs? I seriously doubt it.

 

So here we are, dangerously inflexible to compromise solutions--the publics unwilling (and honestly politically unable) to restructure their systems to match the draw of the privates and the privates unwilling to limit the athletic eligibility of kids wanting to play sports from far beyond the range of any public.

 

He went to Catholic grade school. Under the current JCPS open enrollment, a kid who lives in the far west end of Louisville can attend Eastern HS if he wants, which is certainly a farther distance than Jeffersonville, In to Trinity.

He went to Catholic grade school. Under the current JCPS open enrollment, a kid who lives in the far west end of Louisville can attend Eastern HS if he wants, which is certainly a farther distance than Jeffersonville, In to Trinity.

 

Precisely. :thumb:

I agree wholeheartedly. Parents should be able to send their children to the closest Catholic school if that is their wish. Even if this choice happens to mean the student has to cross a state line .Or in the case of central Ky county lines .

 

So why isn't the Diocese of Covington and the Archdiocese of Cincinnati leading the charge against the OHSAA to allow students from KY be able to participate in Ohio? Matter of fact, the Superintendent of schools for the Diocese of Covington called it a non issue. Why? Protecting their own NorKY turf? A great swimmer could forget about CovCath and go to Cincy St. X and really make a difference? Where is the energy to make that option available? If it is just as viable for Indianna residents to play in KY athletic association events then why does the Diocese of Covington not show the same focus to make such available for those to play in Ohio?

So why isn't the Diocese of Covington and the Archdiocese of Cincinnati leading the charge against the OHSAA to allow students from KY be able to participate in Ohio? Matter of fact, the Superintendent of schools for the Diocese of Covington called it a non issue. Why? Protecting their own NorKY turf? A great swimmer could forget about CovCath and go to Cincy St. X and really make a difference? Where is the energy to make that option available? If it is just as viable for Indianna residents to play in KY athletic association events then why does the Diocese of Covington not show the same focus to make such available for those to play in Ohio?

I'm not following the logic?