Never said no non catholic but at the same time I would rather the US pay a full ride to a USA student then a kid from CANADA. I never said not to let kids go to catholic schools, all I am saying is it would make me mad if I being catholic could not send my kid to T or X, but see kids there that I know could not afford it but know that they are there because they play sports or get money or discounts. And if you been around X for twenty years and never heard "sponership" then your hanging around the Biology Club and not the wheelers and dealers of the school..

 

What is wrong with the Biology Club and trust me I know the workings within.

And the number of Catholic grade school kids in the JCPS system as a whole...EXCLUDING Manual? Pretty high, 02Ram. The numbers bear me out on that one. There are approximately 300-400 enrolling freshman each year @ Trinity & X each...give or take on any given year. There are FAR many more than that in 8th grade in Catholic grade schools each year.

 

Is there even capacity for hundreds of additional students at X and T? I don't understand the criticism being leveled at public schools for having kids from Catholic grade schools when there may not even be enough space at the Catholic high schools to accommodate them. Why doesn't the Archdiocese build another boys high school in say, Oldham County? :confused:

Thanks for joining us H. I was wondering, how many Catholic grade school kids play for your football team? For that matter, how many "non-traditional" middle school kids play for your football team?

The reason that the number of Catholic students playing for public teams has been brought up is because of the proposal put forth that if a students attends public elementary school and then decides to go to a private high school he/she would be ineligible for 1 year when the same period of ineligibility would not apply to students going from private elementary to public high schools. The public side has hitched their wagon to the concept of "fair" and "level" and we just want to know how much public schools have benefitted from taking students that "belong" to the private schools. (I thought I'd try the ownership thing since many public school people seem to think that way.)

According to the Archdiocese's website, there are 11,722 K-8 kids enrolled in Jefferson County Catholic schools. This number excludes the two new schools that were formed when several closed early this year. It also excludes the schools that are not in Jefferson County.

 

There are 6042 students enrolled in Catholic High Schools. That number excludes Bethleham, which is listed as on their website.

 

With these numbers (and understanding the number of students would be higher if the enrollments of the other two academies were reported), there is an attrition of 5,680 students from K-8. Those 5,680 students would be, most likely, enrolled in the public schools. That's almost 50% of Catholic grade schoolers attending public high schools.

As far as the whole Indiana Catholic school opportunties.......At least two Indiana Catholic grade schools compete in the Louisville Catholic Schools Athletic Association..... Floyd County Catholic and St. Anthony. Some of these students continue on to Louisville Catholic High Schools. Check the LouCSAA website for confirmation. Many Louisville families have moved to the so-called "sunny side of Louisville" Once again....This is America.....It was founded on choice.....Parents should be able to choose what school system is right for their child regardless of religion, price, or location without being punished for that decision.

According to the Archdiocese's website, there are 11,722 K-8 kids enrolled in Jefferson County Catholic schools. This number excludes the two new schools that were formed when several closed early this year. It also excludes the schools that are not in Jefferson County.

 

There are 6042 students enrolled in Catholic High Schools. That number excludes Bethleham, which is listed as on their website.

 

With these numbers (and understanding the number of students would be higher if the enrollments of the other two academies were reported), there is an attrition of 5,680 students from K-8. Those 5,680 students would be, most likely, enrolled in the public schools. That's almost 50% of Catholic grade schoolers attending public high schools.

Well, you can't really twerk it that way. Not saying you don't have a point, but the stats don't bear out like that.

 

For example, that 11,700 could lean heavily to K-5th grade. I went to a private Kindergarten, you know.

 

If a kid attends public school K-7th, and a Catholic school for 8th grade, is he a Catholic grade school kid? The only snapshot stat that works is 8th grade numbers, and even then I'd feel more comfortbale with more sortable data.

Well, you can't really twerk it that way. Not saying you don't have a point, but the stats don't bear out like that.

 

For example, that 11,700 could lean heavily to K-5th grade. I went to a private Kindergarten, you know.

 

If a kid attends public school K-7th, and a Catholic school for 8th grade, is he a Catholic grade school kid? The only snapshot stat that works is 8th grade numbers, and even then I'd feel more comfortbale with more sortable data.

 

 

However, attrition is attrition, whenever it occurs. What you say actually strengthens my point. There are more kids in Catholic schools earlier in their school years, than in the higher grades, which means they've gone into the public school system.

 

The same point you make could also be made in that the freshman classes numbers usually exceed the numbers who actually graduate. Again...attrition.

 

The point that I'm trying to make, is that there are more kids in the public schools, who attended Catholic schools at some point, than there are public school kids who are now attending Catholic schools.

The point that I'm trying to make, is that there are more kids in the public schools, who attended Catholic schools at some point, than there are public school kids who are now attending Catholic schools.

And I've already said that ISN'T the point, even if I were trying to debate with you on this topic, which I am not.

And I've already said that ISN'T the point, even if I were trying to debate with you on this topic, which I am not.

 

 

Well, then why reply to my post? :lol: That post was for someone who asked earlier about the numbers. :lol:

Runfirst.....There is another point here also....How many public school kids who played in a Catholic school league (because of parish membership) play on public school teams? Are these kids public or private property??? Let them play where they want to play!!

According to the Archdiocese's website, there are 11,722 K-8 kids enrolled in Jefferson County Catholic schools. This number excludes the two new schools that were formed when several closed early this year. It also excludes the schools that are not in Jefferson County.

 

There are 6042 students enrolled in Catholic High Schools. That number excludes Bethleham, which is listed as on their website.

 

With these numbers (and understanding the number of students would be higher if the enrollments of the other two academies were reported), there is an attrition of 5,680 students from K-8. Those 5,680 students would be, most likely, enrolled in the public schools. That's almost 50% of Catholic grade schoolers attending public high schools.

 

Actually there are, according to your numbers and assuming an even distribution, about 1300 students per grade in elementary school and about 1500 per grade in high school. You cannot compare raw numbers with no context. There are nine elementary grades and only four at the high school level.

Actually there are, according to your numbers and assuming an even distribution, about 1300 students per grade in elementary school and about 1500 per grade in high school. You cannot compare raw numbers with no context. There are nine elementary grades and only four at the high school level.

 

 

It still does nothing to dispel the fact that slightly less than 50% of kids leave their Catholic school at some point. THAT's the point.

To further clarify my point:

 

My numbers are not meant to represent the sizes of the schools, relative to the grade schools. My point is to address the outcry that the private schools are receiving a disproportionate amount of public school kids.

According to the Archdiocese's website, there are 11,722 K-8 kids enrolled in Jefferson County Catholic schools. This number excludes the two new schools that were formed when several closed early this year. It also excludes the schools that are not in Jefferson County.

 

There are 6042 students enrolled in Catholic High Schools. That number excludes Bethleham, which is listed as on their website.

 

With these numbers (and understanding the number of students would be higher if the enrollments of the other two academies were reported), there is an attrition of 5,680 students from K-8. Those 5,680 students would be, most likely, enrolled in the public schools. That's almost 50% of Catholic grade schoolers attending public high schools.

 

This is really poor math on your part - the K-8 number represents kids in 9 grades - high school represents kids in 4 grades. At the elementary/middle school level there are 1300+ kids per grade. There are 1500 kids per grade at the high school. Where did those 200+ kids per grade come from, that is not attrition, that is addition.

 

In a 4 year average at the elementary/middle level there are 5200 kids. In high school there are 6000 kids. That is an average increase in 800 kids at the high school that are not at the elementary and middle schools. Where did those kids come from? Again, this is not attrition it is addition.