Boone is like all the really good sports programs. The vast majority of girls that are good enough would love to play for Boone. If the girl wants to play at the next level, they often will seek on their own to play there.

I was told by a member of the state board of control that the big transfer last year would not have been allowed by the board but Ms. Devries ok'd the case. It was not appealed, which would have sent it to the board of control and he said emphatically, they would not have ok'ed it. He was not very happy with the decision. I'm just repeating the facts I got. She will end up at Boone, why do you think Minor is leaving. Again, what a joke.

 

Coach Minor is not stepping down as the head coach because the player mentioned in this thread is leaving. Coach Minor has young children and I am sure he is going to get more involved in their lives. As far as the player leaving, as stated earlier, I believe the player will remain at HC and her brother will attend as well.

At this point he will remain as a teacher. I would hope he has a chance to coach boys basketball somewhere in the near future.

 

Coach Minor is not stepping down as the head coach because the player mentioned in this thread is leaving. Coach Minor has young children and I am sure he is going to get more involved in their lives. As far as the player leaving, as stated earlier, I believe the player will remain at HC and her brother will attend as well.

 

Does he want to coach the boys or does he want to stay home with his young family?:confused:

I was told by a member of the state board of control that the big transfer last year would not have been allowed by the board but Ms. Devries ok'd the case. It was not appealed, which would have sent it to the board of control and he said emphatically, they would not have ok'ed it. He was not very happy with the decision. I'm just repeating the facts I got. She will end up at Boone, why do you think Minor is leaving. Again, what a joke.

 

First, from what I read on the KHSAA website the Commissioner's Office, and Ms. Devries was the Commissioner, rules on eligibility cases once the request for waiver of the period of ineligibilty is made. So that process was followed and the Commissioner, reading the case as presented and the basis for the request, ruled in favor of the transfer being immediately eligible. And that ruling didn't take long, indicating the Commissioner felt the case was solid.

 

I assume the board you speak of is the KHSAA Board of Control. If that assumption is correct, are you saying that one member of a board of 20 members can guarantee that the other 19 members agree with his point of view, which may be, as are many on this forum, biased against the particular school receiving the transfer? I doubt any one member can know how a group of 20 members might rule, particularly before they have seen the facts.

 

And I think the "sending" school, the one the transfer left, was wise in not appealing the decision as that would have required the reasons for the transfer being approved at the county level being put out in full view. The sending school probably didn't want that. Plus, those reasons/facts would have been difficult for for Board of Control members reviewing the appeal to go against, IMO.

 

I am just getting in on this discussion. It was kinda hidden because of its title. I'm amazed that a thread that starts out about a coach leaving a school evolves to a discussion about the rumored transfer of a student from that school, to a transfer that was approved and occurred last summer.

 

Actually......................I'm really not all that amazed!!!

 

But I do agree.........."what a joke!" :deadhorse:

Does Boone not have enough girls to develop (underclassman) instead of recruiting. This is highschool??? Crazy. Why not develop the kids in your own system and make that the challenge of being a Great coach. NCC does.

I agree, but TECHNICALLY the three best players at NCC in the past 10 years, Choidi, Theim, and Klei, were all from a school that could be considered in Brossart's district.

I'm a by-the-book guy for the most part. If you have a rule, enforce it consistently. However, I do realize there are a limited number of cases where circumstances are such that the usual requirements for eligibility are bypassed. They're rare cases but I do not believe it can be cut and dry.

 

Well stated! And I am in the same boat as far as the "by-the-book" approach. But I also agree that there are always exceptions.

 

I administered a youth league for many years and found that, as you state, it isn't always "cut and dry". There are invariably valid exceptions to rules. And I don't believe there can ever be enough rules to cover ever circumstance.

Well stated! And I am in the same boat as far as the "by-the-book" approach. But I also agree that there are always exceptions.

 

I administered a youth league for many years and found that, as you state, it isn't always "cut and dry". There are invariably valid exceptions to rules. And I don't believe there can ever be enough rules to cover ever circumstance.

 

Since there are always exceptions, due away with the rules. Pretty simple concept really.

Since there are always exceptions, due away with the rules. Pretty simple concept really.

 

My thoughts are to have basic rules......as opposed to trying to write rules for every circumstance......apply those basic rules as consistently as possible......then deal practically with the exceptions.

I agree, but TECHNICALLY the three best players at NCC in the past 10 years, Choidi, Theim, and Klei, were all from a school that could be considered in Brossart's district.

 

That is fetching. NCC and Brossart have a common feeder school. I am sure there were other factors those girls chose NCC. Friends, etc.?

First, from what I read on the KHSAA website the Commissioner's Office, and Ms. Devries was the Commissioner, rules on eligibility cases once the request for waiver of the period of ineligibilty is made. So that process was followed and the Commissioner, reading the case as presented and the basis for the request, ruled in favor of the transfer being immediately eligible. And that ruling didn't take long, indicating the Commissioner felt the case was solid.

 

I assume the board you speak of is the KHSAA Board of Control. If that assumption is correct, are you saying that one member of a board of 20 members can guarantee that the other 19 members agree with his point of view, which may be, as are many on this forum, biased against the particular school receiving the transfer? I doubt any one member can know how a group of 20 members might rule, particularly before they have seen the facts.

 

And I think the "sending" school, the one the transfer left, was wise in not appealing the decision as that would have required the reasons for the transfer being approved at the county level being put out in full view. The sending school probably didn't want that. Plus, those reasons/facts would have been difficult for for Board of Control members reviewing the appeal to go against, IMO.

 

I am just getting in on this discussion. It was kinda hidden because of its title. I'm amazed that a thread that starts out about a coach leaving a school evolves to a discussion about the rumored transfer of a student from that school, to a transfer that was approved and occurred last summer.

 

Actually......................I'm really not all that amazed!!!

 

But I do agree.........."what a joke!" :deadhorse:

 

Frank, are you saying you know some on the board have a bias against Boone or are you just asking what if? If you say you know for sure, how do you know this, did you talk to all of the members of the board? I stated exactly what the man said to me. Did the board discuss it after the fact? I don't know. He explained the facts as he knew them and left it at that. As far as the other school not appealing. I can't say why they didn't because I didn't talk to anyone who helped make the decision. I have learned one thing in the last few posts I have made, you should talk to someone in the know instead of just speculating. I also learned this, labels, true or not, can stick for a long time.

Frank, are you saying you know some on the board have a bias against Boone or are you just asking what if? If you say you know for sure, how do you know this, did you talk to all of the members of the board? I stated exactly what the man said to me. Did the board discuss it after the fact? I don't know. He explained the facts as he knew them and left it at that. As far as the other school not appealing. I can't say why they didn't because I didn't talk to anyone who helped make the decision. I have learned one thing in the last few posts I have made, you should talk to someone in the know instead of just speculating. I also learned this, labels, true or not, can stick for a long time.

 

Read what I said. I said the board member you talked with could have a "point of view which MAY be biased". Therefore that member "may" be prone to "emphatically" state how 19 other members of a board of which he is a member might rule.

 

I could ask you the same question......did you talk to all members of the board? No, you stated you only talked with one. But you were quick to jump to the fore with his "opinion" on how a appeal......one that never occurred......would have gone.

 

While I haven't talked to anyone on the board I would question why the board, certainly as a group, would discuss a single particular ruling by the Commissioner. Did some discuss it among themselves? That's possible but since you talked to but one member about that then that's an unknown as well.

 

Speculation is bound to happen on a message board in matters such as this. Message boards are full of that sort of thing. But even speculation should be tempered with some degree of reasonableness as opposed to broad conclusions based on a single bit of information that supports one's obvious position.

 

Talking to one person out of as group of 20 and then drawing a conclusion that the group of 20 would support your position, simply because the one you talked with does, is still speculation. Surely you can see that.

 

What are the "facts"? The transfer occurred because of reasons the county board felt were valid. Those reasons surely were used in the request for eligibility to the KHSAA and the Commissioner, acting per the KHSAA guidelines, also felt the reasons were valid and granted eligibility. The sending school chose not to appeal. The rest is history so why challenge it all again? It's done. And yes, labels do stick for a long time, particularly if one continues to flash those labels for all to see.

I will say again that as opposed to dealing with every minor exception and the hard feelings that follow, why not do away with the transfer rule, and that way at least you remove the KHSAA from the issue of transferring. Hard feelings will still be there.

 

The other idea that others have brought up in different psots that I think has some merit is the idea of not allowing junior high players to play varsity sports. I know the argument about the smaller schools, but the fact is the middle schoolers are not in high school yet. Furthermore, some coaches have been known to play a middle school player for a few moments in a varsity event just so the transfer issue can be in play. Unfair, I think, but I have seen it happen.

That is fetching. NCC and Brossart have a common feeder school. I am sure there were other factors those girls chose NCC. Friends, etc.?

NCC and Brossart do not have a common feeder school. St. Joe's is a feeder school for Brossart, NOT NCC. However, if you go to St. Joe's and want to go to NCC, you can, but you have to pay out of district tuition. So for clarification purposes, St. Joe's is in Brossart's district.

NCC and Brossart do not have a common feeder school. St. Joe's is a feeder school for Brossart, NOT NCC. However, if you go to St. Joe's and want to go to NCC, you can, but you have to pay out of district tuition. So for clarification purposes, St. Joe's is in Brossart's district.

 

Sorry, I did not know that. But..... I really do not think comparing this to the Boone situation is not even comparable. I don't think Coach Dawn approaches girls at middle school age to attend NCC. And by the way he has some talented incoming freshman from a variety of his feeder schools this year which he can develop to be great ball players.

Bearcat...I'm pretty surprised you blatantly broke the rules and accused a school of recruiting.

 

I think it is borderline hilarious that someone states "I heard a rumor" and this board goes crazy since, of course, it's Boone.

 

Although it would be a "Fantastic" opportunity...it doesn't appear it will be Ms Beal. I personally have not seen Beal play, but BC has a couple of really good guards so they'll be okay.