April 29, 201016 yr Just as I am giving Dez the benefit of the doubt here, I will do the same for Ireland. We still do not know the entire context of the question. Say they were discussing his mom and Dez had said how she would flag down guys in the streets during her drug days, and the prostitution question was a follow-up to it, then it would make a little more sense. I still have a difficult time thinking he just asked this out of the blue. But I agree it was probably already known and he most likely took it too far. Billick brought up a good point this morning in that you wonder if Arthur Blank and company would have asked more probing questions to Michael Vick before investing their franchise in him? Another good point on Mike and Mike was brought up as well this morning. If you have a rookie wage scale, that eliminates a lot of this pre-draft interview silliness. Another great point made on that show by Billick was nobody would have known about the question if it wasn't for Dez telling people.
April 29, 201016 yr There are other ways of asking a question to gain information without implying that someone's mother is a hooker. She served 15 years on drug related charges. Ask a question involving a real concern "We are aware of your mother's past legal issues. We also understand how friends and family members can have a huge impact on how someone conducts their personal business off the field. Tell us specifically why we, as an organization who would be paying you a great deal of money, we should not be concerned about this."
April 29, 201016 yr It sounds like his mother has had issues with the law. I don't know what they were, and I'm sure its a little to late for her to do the right thing now. If Dez wants to make more money than all of us combined who have commented on this subject... he needs to understand why the questions were being asked. My problem is if they pay him millions then every time something doesn't go his way he's going to spout off to the media. I see a reason to think I might be thinking about signing the next wide out troublemaker. Ireland's gonna apologize. What else can he do? The more you stir this the more its going to stink.
April 29, 201016 yr You and I have a very different view of prostitution. I think it should be legal. It may have gone too far, but if I was looking to spend as much money as he would have commanded in that spot I think I would have asked every question I could think of. How would you know my view on prostitution? Legal or not, it would still be frowned upon to be one. It always has been and most likely always will be.
April 29, 201016 yr Don't you think it crossed the line though? Everyone knows Dez had a rough home life and his mother has been in jail. Doesn't that say enough? My thing is that prostitution is one of the lowest things a person can do in our society. Outside of committing murder or molesting a child, what other things can you do that are considered as bad as selling your body for money? And even if Dez's mom was a prostitute it has nothing to do with Dez. The trouble Dez got in with the NCAA was not bad trouble, he just lied about his contact with Deion Sanders because he was probably scared that he had committed a infraction. And in asking Dez if his mother was a prostitute, they were pretty much accusing her of being so. There's nothing wrong with being thorough in their research about players, but my goodness draw the line somewhere. JMO. How would you know my view on prostitution? Legal or not, it would still be frowned upon to be one. It always has been and most likely always will be. Didn't you kind of answer your own question? It would be frowned on by who? I surely wouldn't. If women are willing to previde a legal service and men want to pay for it what is there to frown about? I'd try to be the first person in NKY to open a legal brothel.
April 30, 201016 yr Didn't you kind of answer your own question? It would be frowned on by who? I surely wouldn't. If women are willing to previde a legal service and men want to pay for it what is there to frown about? I'd try to be the first person in NKY to open a legal brothel. Sure didn't. Okay so you don't think it's bad to be a prostitute, the most of the rest of the world sees it differently. Prostitution has been a social mores for about as long as humans have been civilized. It has never been socially acceptable to be a prostitute. I'm not saying I frown upon it, I don't particularly care one way or another. But the way you feel does not chance how most of society feels about prostitutes.
April 30, 201016 yr Sure didn't. Okay so you don't think it's bad to be a prostitute, the most of the rest of the world sees it differently. Prostitution has been a social mores for about as long as humans have been civilized. It has never been socially acceptable to be a prostitute. I'm not saying I frown upon it, I don't particularly care one way or another. But the way you feel does not chance how most of society feels about prostitutes. You said it was one of the lowest things a person could do outside of murder and molesting a child. I guess I read that wrong? I'm not saying my view on it is the popular view, but I highly doubt people rank it as bad as you are saying. In Vegas is is socially acceptable to be a prostitute. So never may be the wrong word. If you were getting ready to give a 21 year old kid that just had to miss his senior year b/c of a suspension wouldn't you want your GM or scouts to ask the toughest questions of that kid?
April 30, 201016 yr You said it was one of the lowest things a person could do outside of murder and molesting a child. I guess I read that wrong? I'm not saying my view on it is the popular view, but I highly doubt people rank it as bad as you are saying. In Vegas is is socially acceptable to be a prostitute. So never may be the wrong word. If you were getting ready to give a 21 year old kid that just had to miss his senior year b/c of a suspension wouldn't you want your GM or scouts to ask the toughest questions of that kid? SSC, I said that's how society views it so stop putting words into my mouth and yes you actually did read it wrong. I don't know what's so hard about this concept. Just because prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada does not mean that people there like it or prostitutes in general. How many people are proud to pick up a hooker? How many of us would allow our children to go home with one of their friends if we knew the parent was selling her body for money on the side? I'd be willing to guess that 95% of people find something they do not like about prostitution. Your argument is ridiculous man. Name me another job that is as socially unacceptable as prostitution. ONE JOB!!! You can't do it SSC, the majority of people in this society and in most other societies (both current and in the past) do not have a favorable view of them. What is so hard about that?:idunno:
April 30, 201016 yr I don't get the argument that because they might pay him a lot of money they can ask him any question they want... What is the cut off for that right? IMO the amount of money should in NO way determine permissability of questions that are out of line.
April 30, 201016 yr There were two people who knew that question was asked, and they were both in the same room. One of them talked and it most likely wasn't Ireland. There was more from Ireland today on the 2 pm version of Sports Center. Before his career is over Bryant will have at least one audience with the Commissioner.
April 30, 201016 yr SSC, I said that's how society views it so stop putting words into my mouth and yes you actually did read it wrong. I don't know what's so hard about this concept. Just because prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada does not mean that people there like it or prostitutes in general. How many people are proud to pick up a hooker? How many of us would allow our children to go home with one of their friends if we knew the parent was selling her body for money on the side? I'd be willing to guess that 95% of people find something they do not like about prostitution. Your argument is ridiculous man. Name me another job that is as socially unacceptable as prostitution. ONE JOB!!! You can't do it SSC, the majority of people in this society and in most other societies (both current and in the past) do not have a favorable view of them. What is so hard about that?:idunno: A politician. (I am half kidding)
April 30, 201016 yr SSC, I said that's how society views it so stop putting words into my mouth and yes you actually did read it wrong. I don't know what's so hard about this concept. Just because prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada does not mean that people there like it or prostitutes in general. You said it's one of the lowest things a person can do in our society. That's not society's opinion, it's your opinion. Where has it ever been said that the worst thing a person can do, other than murder and child molestation of course, was prostitution?
May 1, 201016 yr You said it's one of the lowest things a person can do in our society. That's not society's opinion, it's your opinion. Where has it ever been said that the worst thing a person can do, other than murder and child molestation of course, was prostitution? Name a job that is looked at as being worse than prostitution. Name it. That's just not me, I have asked probably about 40 people today about it. All I stated was what is the worst profession you could have based on how society would view it. Almost everyone said a prostitute and the ones that didn't said a stripper (which I don't necessarily agree with). Research shows that most people in America do not have a favorable view of individual prostitutes, even if they are for legalizing prostitution. There's really nothing to argue about. The statement I made was a general statement, maybe it's not the 3rd worst thing you can do, but common sense would tell you that most people do not think highly of prostitutes. Like I said you don't know my personal views on it. I don't care one way or another, and to be honest I think people should be able to do whatever they feel like as long as they are not hurting other people. If someone wants to sell their body for money, more power to them. However I think people just have to be realistic. Why would people be mad about the whole Dez Bryant thing if prostitution was not a social mores? Maybe my statement went too far, but their would not have been the outrage over the Bryant situation if prostitution was universally acceptable in American society.
May 1, 201016 yr Bryant denies the following, but apparently the following exchange took place during the interview. If true, certainly explains the context of the situation and makes it pretty clear why THE question was asked. Bryant: "My dad was a pimp." Ireland: "What did your mom do [for a living]?" Bryant: "She worked for my dad." Ireland: "Your mom was a prostitute?" Bryant: "No, she wasn't a prostitute."
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