So, please enlighten us. What should WE look for in a prospect?

 

What makes Rasmus a much better prospect than Stubbs?

I have already explained it. Rasmus was more productive than Stubbs most of the way through the minor leagues and doing it at a younger age.

 

At age 22, Rasmus was playing in the major leagues and was fairly productive. Stubbs was in low-A ball, in the Midwest League.

 

In more detail ... Stubbs' strikeouts are a problem. He fanned 142 times in Low-A ball just three years ago. Last year, he had 153 Ks between Triple-A and the majors. Those numbers, and the fact that he's already 25, make you wonder if he could be a bit overmatched when he faces major league pitching on a regular basis.

 

Stubbs' defense, which is extremely well-regarded, means he has a place on a major league roster. But the jury is out on future stardom.

 

Rasmus hit 29 homers in Double-A at age 20 ... that's very impressive. He had some injury issues, as I recall, in Triple-A, then held his own over a full season in the majors at age 22.

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Not necessarily ... baseball guy is full of "can't-miss" prospects that never developed into stars.

 

Most baseball players have some fluctuation in stats from year-to-year ... they're called good years and bad years. It explains how J.J. Hardy goes from looking like one of the best young shortstops in the game in 2008 to getting demoted to the minors the next year.

 

If you want to try and play the "gotcha" game, go right ahead. Just throwing out numbers and not knowing other data (stuff like what position the guy plays and his defensive skills) makes it difficult to assess the guy's viability as a prospect.

 

 

3rd basemen. Good defensive skills.

3rd basemen. Good defensive skills.

Go on and enlighten us with the player's identity. I've told you all I can tell you.

 

He had (apparently) a bad year in Double-A and (apparently) a very good year in Triple-A ... all in all, a mixed bag.

What are you missing? The fact that I pointed out the Reds staff was 7th in ERA last year.

 

 

 

Again, 35 bombs/90+ ribbies. I'll take that every year from my LF.

 

That would be all well and good except for the math that you are using to come up with those left field numbers. Those two did not only play left field last season. Sure they produced those numbers--but in 214 games played. It is not realistic to expect 35 HRs and 90+ RBIs. In fact, the Reds leftfield platoon actually put up these numbers last season:

 

.240 AVG .302 OB% .418 Slg 24 HRs 71 RBIs 2 SB and 164 Strikeouts....Those are very poor numbers from a corner outfield position.

Go on and enlighten us with the player's identity. I've told you all I can tell you.

 

He had (apparently) a bad year in Double-A and (apparently) a very good year in Triple-A ... all in all, a mixed bag.

 

 

So it's too hard to tell then based on his minor league numbers and the age at which he reached the majors then right?

So it's too hard to tell then based on his minor league numbers and the age at which he reached the majors then right?

You're only throwing out a smattering of numbers. You're deliberately not telling the whole story in an effort to play "gotcha" ...

 

As I said ... it's a mixed bag, given that he evidently struggled in Double-A. Most future stars or superstars move up the ladder pretty quickly and with more consistency.

I was going to guess Scott Rolen....:idunno:

That would be all well and good except for the math that you are using to come up with those left field numbers. Those two did not only play left field last season. Sure they produced those numbers--but in 214 games played. It is not realistic to expect 35 HRs and 90+ RBIs. In fact, the Reds leftfield platoon actually put up these numbers last season:

 

.240 AVG .302 OB% .418 Slg 24 HRs 71 RBIs 2 SB and 164 Strikeouts....Those are very poor numbers from a corner outfield position.

Amen ...

I was going to guess Scott Rolen....:idunno:

 

 

How would you rate Rolen's career?

 

 

Great

 

Very good

 

Average

How would you rate Rolen's career?

 

 

Great

 

Very good

 

Average

On the whole, pretty good. He qualifies as a star.

 

That isn't very surprising, given that he was a prouctive major leaguer at age 22.

How would you rate Rolen's career?

 

 

Great

 

Very good

 

Average

 

I don't know if I'd say "very good", but definitely better than "average". I'd say above-average as a whole. Defensively, he's one of the best around though.

On the whole, pretty good. He qualifies as a star.

 

That isn't very surprising, given that he was a prouctive major leaguer at age 22.

 

 

I wonder if his minor league numbers were better than the mystery player. :sssh:

I wonder if his minor league numbers were better than the mystery player. :sssh:

 

 

Who's this mystery player?

I wonder if his minor league numbers were better than the mystery player. :sssh:

Rolen hit .361 in Double-A at age 21 ... certainly his numbers at that level were.

Rolen hit .361 in Double-A at age 21 ... certainly his numbers at that level were.

 

 

So Rolen had better minor league numbers and reached the majors at an earlier age than Michael Jack Schmidt.