question is why would you hire Tim Fraley to a position that needs someone to stay for awhile. Why has he been to so many places before? Why did he leave Greenup, they need to hire a young coach and has time and willing to stay for awhile to get the program where it needs to be. Fresh Blood new start because obviously what they had going on wasnt working. Someone who can come in and earn respect and get the kids believing. Bring in a coach who is not using it as a stepping stone

question is why would you hire Tim Fraley to a position that needs someone to stay for awhile. Why has he been to so many places before? Why did he leave Greenup, they need to hire a young coach and has time and willing to stay for awhile to get the program where it needs to be. Fresh Blood new start because obviously what they had going on wasnt working. Someone who can come in and earn respect and get the kids believing. Bring in a coach who is not using it as a stepping stone

 

I agree completely. That is why they should make Tim Parks from JBS their next coach!!

What?

 

The Grant County Braves are contenders to win the District each year....

they are the second biggest school in their district. Only makes sense, right???

I guess.

Was it againt the rules for Kinmon to stay coaching with the admin. job , or did he just bail out?

Was it againt the rules for Kinmon to stay coaching with the admin. job , or did he just bail out?

 

Against district policy...

The Grant County Braves are contenders to win the District each year....

they are the second biggest school in their district. Only makes sense, right???

 

Not to me. I judge teams on talent not amount of kids in the school. How many district titles have they won in the last 10?

Not to me. I judge teams on talent not amount of kids in the school. How many district titles have they won in the last 10?

 

I do not know on the top of my head but they should have more than what they got.

 

Statistically speaking....the more kids you got, the more talent you should have. It doesn't always go that way, as you can see. If you actually got a chance to see the Braves, you may of seen that they had the talent to win the district title this year. So they had the talent and normally do in the 32nd district.

 

WV is a small school, they had lots and IMO the most talent and should of be the district champs in the 32nd. However. I think something like 40% of their athletes do not live in their district. Such as 3 of their 5 previous starters.

I do not know on the top of my head but they should have more than what they got.

 

Statistically speaking....the more kids you got, the more talent you should have. It doesn't always go that way, as you can see. If you actually got a chance to see the Braves, you may of seen that they had the talent to win the district title this year. So they had the talent and normally do in the 32nd district.

 

WV is a small school, they had lots and IMO the most talent and should of be the district champs in the 32nd. However. I think something like 40% of their athletes do not live in their district. Such as 3 of their 5 previous starters.

 

Well then obviously amount of kids at your school doesn't matter. SK is probably going to the regional tournament every year w/ the current setup. I see Grant County as one of 3 teams competing for the 2nd spot.

Well then obviously amount of kids at your school doesn't matter. SK is probably going to the regional tournament every year w/ the current setup. I see Grant County as one of 3 teams competing for the 2nd spot.

 

So, you finally agree that something does need to be done with the system!

Contrary to what someone within the halls of GCHS may tell you, the students, faculty, parents, and community want a winning program!! This group of people won't settle for 2nd spot :madman:, and it's a top priority for the administration to pick the right person best suited for the job. However and regardless of who that will be, it's going to take time to rebuild.

So, you finally agree that something does need to be done with the system!

Contrary to what someone within the halls of GCHS may tell you, the students, faculty, parents, and community want a winning program!! This group of people won't settle for 2nd spot :madman:, and it's a top priority for the administration to pick the right person best suited for the job. However and regardless of who that will be, it's going to take time to rebuild.

 

This group of people have unrealistic expectations. If Grant County is serious about winning they would hire someone looking to develop the grade schoolers and middle schoolers. They would also have more than one gym. It's great to get rah rah and say "we're going to win big". Prove it. Build a gym and put money into the younger kids. If not then just concentrate on teaching basketball and having the kids develop into young adults w/ great grades and better behavior. I don't care if they would have hired Dave Henley they aren't winning the region every year.

This group of people have unrealistic expectations. If Grant County is serious about winning they would hire someone looking to develop the grade schoolers and middle schoolers. They would also have more than one gym. It's great to get rah rah and say "we're going to win big". Prove it. Build a gym and put money into the younger kids. If not then just concentrate on teaching basketball and having the kids develop into young adults w/ great grades and better behavior. I don't care if they would have hired Dave Henley they aren't winning the region every year.

 

SSC...Care to reveal who the group is? I don't believe that there is a group or there's anyone being unrealistic with expectations. Nobody has demanded that a coach come in and win 20 plus games for three years or you're fired! I've stated before that the program has to rebuild at the lower levels and last time I counted, there's 4 elementary gyms available for that. The problem starts at the middle school and high school, which only has one gym per location. Yes, this is a huge problem and everyone knows that. With the money crunch that's going on statewide, I can't imagine another gym or complex being built for any of the athletics in GC within the next 5 years. And that's probably a wish for it to occur unless the teachers and administration want to reduce their salaries by X% to fund it. Doesn't that sound like a good idea? As for Dave Henley, he's probably had a couple of state championship teams that have just walked the halls and never set foot on a basketball floor. Most teams that he's had in the past really didn't need a coach, (this isn't a knock towards Coach either, he is a great person and one of the best to every coach the game), they just needed some guidance and fatherly advice. IMO, he's made a great career move in going to North Oldham! Grant Co has talent that is just walking the halls and if some of these kids would participate, I guarantee they'll be a regional participant every year!! Regardless of how you perceive the program, let the cheerleaders continue to RAH! RAH! and then let the administration find the right coach - although money helps, it doesn't buy accomplishments or championship :thumb:

Nobody has demanded that a coach come in and win 20 plus games for three years or you're fired! :thumb:

 

This is true. And I personally think this should change.

Well then obviously amount of kids at your school doesn't matter. SK is probably going to the regional tournament every year w/ the current setup. I see Grant County as one of 3 teams competing for the 2nd spot.

 

It matters to a point. Like dribbledrive11 said, you have kids roaming the halls that have the height and talent to play but forever reason they choose not to play. These kids need to be pursued.

 

Your last sentence is exactly what we're trying to change. That is why we are taking the time to make sure we have the best coach possible.

This is true. And I personally think this should change.

 

If that is the sole focus, then Grant County will fare no better in the post-season (and will likely do worse). I have seen too many times where coaches come in and water down the schedule just so they can put quite a few W's on the board. But, then guess what...they get to the postseason and they're one and out. The reason why? Because they didn't play anybody of significance during the regular season to prepare them for the districts/region.

 

Say what you will about Ron Kinmon, but he was never one to "under schedule". In fact, he probably could've put a few more wins on the board if they hadn't "over scheduled" so much over the years.

 

But, if the "powers that be" are going to demand wins...they better be prepared to step up to the plate themselves and do what it takes to help the coach out. Nobody's going to be able to come in and spin gold out of straw by themselves.