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Matt Jones is a Bengal...

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Remind me how many arrest the U has had under Randy Shannon? I'll go ahead and tell you, 1 in Robert Marve who's no longer with the team. But, nice try man, next time do some homework.:sssh:

 

I take it you have only been a fan of them since Shannon got there?

 

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Henry would not have been suspended or cut by the Bengals.

 

 

 

Fine then, but I think Goodell had reached his limit with him--it might not have been up to them. . My point is, that no matter how much it seemed he had changed he was still unstable enough to do what he did. It was going to happen and it almost always does happen again with guys like we're talking about. When you're counting on those people to be contributors is leads to disaster.

When you add up the injuries for both teams, the Bengals had more :thumb:

 

Don't go too far out on a limb saying the Steelers will be back next year, everyone knows they will be better than they were last year. Vegas has them as the third favorite to win it all.

 

Aren't the Cowboys #2 though in Vegas?:idunno:

 

But most know the Steelers will be back, they actually have a real front office, GM, and owner.

 

I take it you have only been a fan of them since Shannon got there?

 

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Absolutely not. I started in the Butch days (I was too young to care before about '96), suffered through the Coker days, and am still a Cane fan now. Unlike the Bengals, Miami has cleaned up it's image, which makes your point void.

 

Sure JJ let the run wild, and Coker really didn't care what happened but one thing that was different than the Bengals was.....The Canes won big and won championships. I don't see Matt Jones holding a Super Bowl trophy any time soon.

 

Absolutely not. I started in the Butch days (I was too young to care before about '96), suffered through the Coker days, and am still a Cane fan now. Unlike the Bengals, Miami has cleaned up it's image, which makes your point void.

 

Sure JJ let the run wild, and Coker really didn't care what happened but one thing that was different than the Bengals was.....The Canes won big and won championships. I don't see Matt Jones holding a Super Bowl trophy any time soon.

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So it's ok to have those kind of guys as long as they are winning championships?

 

This is starting to get good :lol:

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So it's ok to have those kind of guys as long as they are winning championships?

 

This is starting to get good :lol:

 

That was sarcastic. I don't like having thugs and criminals no matter what my record is. I would rather lose with hard working guys that stay out of trouble than win with guys who look for it.

But, OR if you're going to compare the two you do have to remember that Miami did at least win with their problem guys. Cincy doesn't, never has, and never will. So to some, problem guys would have been worth it. Not to me, but some people would rather win at all cost.

 

I don't think the Bengals are doing that from a front office stand point. I think they know they need help at WR and guys like Jones are an easy get because they are cheap and no one else wants them.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-directsnap021610&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

 

“It was one of the worst workouts I have ever seen,” one of the sources said. “I don’t care how fast his 40 time is or was, he’s a slow-twitch athlete.”

 

What that means is that Jones, who is a repeat offender in the NFL’s substance abuse program and did not play in 2009, doesn’t move very quickly over short areas, such as the 10- and 20-yard areas where most pass routes are run. That’s a major reason why Jones had only one season with more than 41 receptions in his four years with the Jacksonville Jaguars after being the No. 21 overall pick.

 

“He obviously has great size, but not even that is much of an advantage when you don’t move very fast,” the other source said. “He’s not really the solution to what we need.”

 

One of his former coaches with the Jaguars said the onus is completely on Jones.

 

“He has always had the athletic ability,” the coach said. “The desire, that’s another matter. All I’ll say is that it’s up to Matt what kind of player he wants to be.”

 

As for Pacman Jones, the word was even worse.

 

“He worked out, but he wasn’t really ready to work out, if you know what I’m saying,” said the first of the two Cincinnati sources. “If he really wants to get back in the league, I don’t know what he’s been doing to get ready for it.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-directsnap021610&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

 

“It was one of the worst workouts I have ever seen,” one of the sources said. “I don’t care how fast his 40 time is or was, he’s a slow-twitch athlete.”

 

What that means is that Jones, who is a repeat offender in the NFL’s substance abuse program and did not play in 2009, doesn’t move very quickly over short areas, such as the 10- and 20-yard areas where most pass routes are run. That’s a major reason why Jones had only one season with more than 41 receptions in his four years with the Jacksonville Jaguars after being the No. 21 overall pick.

 

“He obviously has great size, but not even that is much of an advantage when you don’t move very fast,” the other source said. “He’s not really the solution to what we need.”

 

One of his former coaches with the Jaguars said the onus is completely on Jones.

 

“He has always had the athletic ability,” the coach said. “The desire, that’s another matter. All I’ll say is that it’s up to Matt what kind of player he wants to be.”

 

Awesome. :rolleyes: Now if we could just pick up Javon Walker (and I'm guessing he's probably available), our WR issues are fixed for the foreseeable future.

Well...

 

Just like Vick, any guy that has sat out that long is going to take some time to get back to playing form, if they are ever able to. So much for that experiment I guess.

Ben Utecht is done. His career is over due to concussions. I don't think it has been finalized yet, but he's done. I'd be very surprised if he ever lined up again.

 

I like the Jones signing. Low cost, high reward. Let's not forget that, although Jones did not post impressive numbers, his quarterback left a lot to be desired in JAX.

 

Hopefully a change of scenery will be good for him. Maybe his throwing ability will open up the offense a little bit. Or, maybe we just added another 6'6'' WR who can block downfield. Regardless, I like the move.

 

Palmer and Garrard had very similar stats. He even got into the Pro Bowl as a replacement and Palmer did not.

 

16 Carson Palmer CIN QB 282 466 60.5 29.1 3,094 6.6 193.4 21 13 158 33.9 73 36 5 26 83.6

17 David Garrard JAC QB 314 516 60.9 32.2 3,597 7.0 224.8 15 10 170 32.9 63 44 6 42 83.5

Palmer and Garrard had very similar stats. He even got into the Pro Bowl as a replacement and Palmer did not.

 

16 Carson Palmer CIN QB 282 466 60.5 29.1 3,094 6.6 193.4 21 13 158 33.9 73 36 5 26 83.6

17 David Garrard JAC QB 314 516 60.9 32.2 3,597 7.0 224.8 15 10 170 32.9 63 44 6 42 83.5

 

Garrard got into the pro bowl because Palmer was not able to play. Palmer had surgery on his left hand.

Bengals put him on waivers this morning.

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