I came from nothing to where I am.

 

Born in Eastern Kentucky.

 

First person in the history of my family to go to college. Worked my way through. Paid for it all myself and made myself what I am. Please don't proceed to lecture me about something. When you know nothing about me.

 

And yes I am a critic of people who expect to be given something for nothing.

 

Best piece of advice my dad ever gave me: Don't forget where you came from, and what it took to get where you are today.

 

So, because of your circumstances, and the obstacles you've overcome, you feel it is your place to lecture others on what is necessary for them? I will lecture as I see fit, just as you feel is your right.

Or to get a hold of their drug dealer. :lol:

 

 

See, that's what bothers me. People are making assumptions, and the facts are laid out for them. 68 minutes a month isn't going to help a drug addict much.

 

As nWo pointed out, the program isn't new, it isn't a free program, and unless the individual cell company decides to pass along the cost to their consumer, it doesn't cost any one of us a red cent. And if you carrier does pass it along, you have the option of leaving that carrier and finding another, or dropping service altogether.

 

This whole thread is indicative of yet another program, or issue, where something good for people of little means have an opportunity, and everyone wants to snatch it away because they don't deserve it. Or, they didn't earn it, or any number of reasons.

I did not read the article. Was there a cost attached to this program?

See, that's what bothers me. People are making assumptions, and the facts are laid out for them. 68 minutes a month isn't going to help a drug addict much.

 

As nWo pointed out, the program isn't new, it isn't a free program, and unless the individual cell company decides to pass along the cost to their consumer, it doesn't cost any one of us a red cent. And if you carrier does pass it along, you have the option of leaving that carrier and finding another, or dropping service altogether.

 

This whole thread is indicative of yet another program, or issue, where something good for people of little means have an opportunity, and everyone wants to snatch it away because they don't deserve it. Or, they didn't earn it, or any number of reasons.

 

 

 

Did you notice the laughing smilie beside my post? To be honest though I was half joking, and half serious. I'm sure there are many that truly need the phones, and use it for what it is intended for. I am also just as sure that there as just as many who abuse it just like any other government hand out is abused. Trust me Rockmom, I see it every single day with the state medicaid insurances. I see patients that travel hundreds of miles to see a physician that will dispense their drug of choice, and pay cash for that visit, instead of visiting a local physician where they can use their state medicaid insurance that they so desperately need.

Did you notice the laughing smilie beside my post? To be honest though I was half joking, and half serious. I'm sure there are many that truly need the phones, and use it for what it is intended for. I am also just as sure that there as just as many who abuse it just like any other government hand out is abused. Trust me Rockmom, I see it every single day with the state medicaid insurances. I see patients that travel hundreds of miles to see a physician that will dispense their drug of choice, and pay cash for that visit, instead of visiting a local physician where they can use their state medicaid insurance that they so desperately need.

 

 

Sorry...I was still seeing red when I read your post.

 

I have no doubt that some will/would/do use a cell phone for nefarious purposes. I just also know that there are a LOT of people out there who are hard working, honest, and still less fortunate. Despite what the utopian view is, there are those that no matter how hard they work, can never seem to get ahead. And when I say, "can't get ahead", I'm not talking about a savings account or investments. I'm talking about making ends meet.

The politicians having been telling them for years that they are owed something so that they would vote for them. And we are too stupid enough to not see it for what a lie it is. What else do you think they would believe?

 

What politician has told anybody they are owed something, I have never seen that, ever.

See, this is the problem w/ politics and this country today. I guarantee you that most Americans would love to help the single mom trying to get a job and better the lives of her children and herself. I would also guarantee you that most Americans would love to help a person injured at work that can no longer earn wages. What people don't want to help is the people who use the helping hand to their advantage never looking to get a job. There are far too many of those people. That number is ever growing b/c a lot of people raised like that look for the easy way out. Do you think every person taking hand outs is looking for work? I certainly don't think every person taking handouts is abusing the system, but when people argue about it that's all they bring up.

 

This is question number 82 on this same topic. . . I asked it last week, and I am sure I will ask it next week

 

Where is this mythical number about people abusing the system. Don't give me an anecdotal story of someone you know, I want some real numbers that talk about welfare abuse.

This is question number 82 on this same topic. . . I asked it last week, and I am sure I will ask it next week

 

Where is this mythical number about people abusing the system. Don't give me an anecdotal story of someone you know, I want some real numbers that talk about welfare abuse.

 

Is welfare the only handout that can be abused? Who tracks stats for welfare? I'd live to look at the statistics if it isn't done by the exact same people handing it out.

What politician has told anybody they are owed something, I have never seen that, ever.

 

Isn't there politicians out there that support reparations?

This is question number 82 on this same topic. . . I asked it last week, and I am sure I will ask it next week

 

Where is this mythical number about people abusing the system. Don't give me an anecdotal story of someone you know, I want some real numbers that talk about welfare abuse.

 

How many of the welfare people are going to answer a question of

 

Are you abusing the welfare system with a YES! to get the stat you are looking for.

 

Any stat quoted to you would be people that were CAUGHT, not necessarily abusing the system.

Isn't there politicians out there that support reparations?

 

I think that takes this down a completely different avenue...

Again...it's 68 minutes per month. How much abuse can you do with 68 minutes per month?

Again...it's 68 minutes per month. How much abuse can you do with 68 minutes per month?

 

 

Apparently it's catastrophic. :lol:

Again...it's 68 minutes per month. How much abuse can you do with 68 minutes per month?

 

That's what the article Clyde provided said is the case for Ohio. He also mentioned it's for one year only. That's not accurate though, b/c after a year you can ask for it again. If you don't qualify after a year you can keep the phone you didn't pay for. Also, in the link it says you already have to be getting some sort of government handout to get the phone. I also read somewhere else that participants can qualify for discounted minutes that are added to the 68 minutes. I'll look for that link.

That's what the article Clyde provided said is the case for Ohio. He also mentioned it's for one year only. That's not accurate though, b/c after a year you can ask for it again. If you don't qualify after a year you can keep the phone you didn't pay for. Also, in the link it says you already have to be getting some sort of government handout to get the phone. I also read somewhere else that participants can qualify for discounted minutes that are added to the 68 minutes. I'll look for that link.

 

Which of us have a 68 min/month plan?

 

Anybody? Anybody?

 

It looks like with AT&T that the smallest plan that someone can have is 700 minutes/month, though I am sure that some people use the prepaid minutes. My point is...where will the abuse and the gluttony of phone usage come in?