Class 4A Rankings, hmmm...?

[Shaggy12]

What does everyone think about the BGP current Class 4A rankings compared to Kentucky Associated Press rankings?

Class 4A

Rank-School FPV Rcd TP Pvs

1. Boyle Co. (16) 7-0 187 1

2. Bell Co. (3) 6-1 163 2

3. Lone Oak - 8-0 152 3

4. Allen Co.-Scottsville - 7-0 126 4

5. Lex. Catholic - 4-3 90 5

6. Lawrence Co. - 7-0 75 6

7. Marion Co. - 5-2 64 9

8. West Jessamine - 7-0 54 8

9. Franklin-Simpson - 5-2 29 10

10. Lou. Valley - 6-1 28

 

Specifically, how did Lex Cath move up above Lone Oak when they lost to Boyle and Lone Oak?:idunno:

[CoachJr]

The BluegrassPreps 4A rankings are voted on by several members of the forum, and members are spread throughout all of the state. Unlike the AP poll where members only generate a list, members of this poll have to justify their rankings to the other voting members. The AP poll does have several voting members who are reliable, however members of BluegrassPreps have pointed out over the years how some voting members of the AP poll have had closed schools receive votes.

 

I have seen the explanation on votes and from what I've understood is that votes are based on if teams went head to head on a neutral site at the time of the voting who do they feel would win. Lexington Catholic and Lone Oak went to three overtimes at Lone Oak my guess is that the voters feel that if this was played on a neutral site maybe Lexington Catholic would have pulled out the victory.

 

P.s. I'm only explaining my understanding of these polls and in no way is it a reflection on which poll I feel is more or less reliable. Nor does it reflect who I think would win in a head to head match between Lexington Catholic and Lone Oak.

[Shaggy12]

Interesting bunch of stuff said there. Oh and the game was ended in the 1st overtime. It never went to two or three overtimes. Where did you here that?

Anyway, Lex Cath had the ball first and failed to convert. Lone Oak kicked a field goal and the game was over in the 1st overtime. By the way, Lone Oak lead by 22 points earlier in the game.:clap:

[CoachJr]

Sorry my fault it's been a long day at school and thought I saw where someone in a previous discussion said it was three overtimes. I knew it went to OT but didn't do my homework on how many. Regardless it was still a close game, by two evenly matched teams, where the outcome couldn't be resolved in regulation.

 

BTW I am not a voter in the poll, just trying to explain how they work. It doesn't matter to me who is where in the polls right now the only thing that matters is the outcome in December everything else is just wall material.

Edited October 14, 2009 by bugatti

[Shaggy12]

Sorry my fault it's been a long day at school and thought I saw where someone in a previous discussion said it was three overtimes. I knew it went to OT but didn't do my homework on how many. Regardless it was still a close game, by two evenly matched teams, where the outcome couldn't be resolved in regulation.

 

BTW I am not a voter in the poll, just trying to explain how they work. It doesn't matter to me who is where in the polls right now the only thing that matters is the outcome in December everything else is just wall material.

 

Ain't that the truth?! Amen.

[Jim Schue]

What does everyone think about the BGP current Class 4A rankings compared to Kentucky Associated Press rankings?

Class 4A

Rank-School FPV Rcd TP Pvs

1. Boyle Co. (16) 7-0 187 1

2. Bell Co. (3) 6-1 163 2

3. Lone Oak - 8-0 152 3

4. Allen Co.-Scottsville - 7-0 126 4

5. Lex. Catholic - 4-3 90 5

6. Lawrence Co. - 7-0 75 6

7. Marion Co. - 5-2 64 9

8. West Jessamine - 7-0 54 8

9. Franklin-Simpson - 5-2 29 10

10. Lou. Valley - 6-1 28

 

Specifically, how did Lex Cath move up above Lone Oak when they lost to Boyle and Lone Oak?:idunno:

 

I would guess that the committee looked at the fact that LexCath gave the No. 1 team in 4A all it wanted at their place, and viewed that as more impressive than what Lone Oak is doing right now against what appears to be subpar competition, by comparison to LexCath. In other words, LexCath has improved more since they and Lone Oak played.

[Shaggy12]

I would guess that the committee looked at the fact that LexCath gave the No. 1 team in 4A all it wanted at their place, and viewed that as more impressive than what Lone Oak is doing right now against what appears to be subpar competition, by comparison to LexCath. In other words, LexCath has improved more since they and Lone Oak played.

 

Yeah. That's probably how they're looking at it. Ok, so Lex Cath should be #4, behind Lone Oak. We still beat em' and we still haven't lost. We're 8-0.

They're 4-3. I know I know, they lost to Saint X and a few other prize programs on that side of the state, but just because you're from the west end of the state shouldn't mean you are subpar! Forget it. It's a mentality that has to be beaten down by winning.

[Birdsfan]

I know I know, they lost to Saint X and a few other prize programs on that side of the state, but just because you're from the west end of the state shouldn't mean you are subpar! Forget it. It's a mentality that has to be beaten down by winning.

Since those involved come from all parts of the state, I'm sure geographic bias has no bearing on the BGP rankings whatsoever. :thumb:

[theguru]

I agree Shaggy that teams from the western part of KY have to do more winning in the end or a bunch of wins over other teams that never do anything in the end don't mean much.

[PurplePride92]

I would guess that the committee looked at the fact that LexCath gave the No. 1 team in 4A all it wanted at their place, and viewed that as more impressive than what Lone Oak is doing right now against what appears to be subpar competition, by comparison to LexCath. In other words, LexCath has improved more since they and Lone Oak played.

 

I can't wait for the rematch.....

 

gave them all they wanted.......:ohbrother::rolleyes:

[oldonetechnique]

Lone Oak Might as well be number two, cause they will end up in the finals the West is week the rest of the teams will all end up beating each other up and only one will reach the final.

[Jim Schue]

I can't wait for the rematch.....

 

gave them all they wanted.......:ohbrother::rolleyes:

 

Built a big lead, thought they had it in the bag, then had to hang on late to win. Seems to fit the criteria. Keep in mind I have zero vested interest in either team beyond just being a football fan.

[PurplePride92]

Built a big lead, thought they had it in the bag, then had to hang on late to win. Seems to fit the criteria. Keep in mind I have zero vested interest in either team beyond just being a football fan.

 

I understand, I would just use the words "hang on late to win" if they had made a critical td-tieing stop late in the 4th. BC got the ball back with about 4 minutes left and could have scored another td but started taking knees with about 2 minutes left in the game. Did LC make it a close game, yes, but "hanging on late to win" doesn't sound like a true indicator of how the game played out, IMO. I don't think anyone who was there or listening had any worries of about how the game was going to turn out.

[ColonelMike]

I understand, I would just use the words "hang on late to win" if they had made a critical td-tieing stop late in the 4th. BC got the ball back with about 4 minutes left and could have scored another td but started taking knees with about 2 minutes left in the game. Did LC make it a close game, yes, but "hanging on late to win" doesn't sound like a true indicator of how the game played out, IMO. I don't think anyone who was there or listening had any worries of about how the game was going to turn out.

 

I have no dog in this fight...not a fan of either school...don't even see that many 4A teams (I mostly see 3A, 5A, and 6A schools)...but I find it hard to believe that nobody had any worries about how the game was going to turn out when it went to OT! :lol:

[bugatti]

Lone Oak Might as well be number two, cause they will end up in the finals the West is week the rest of the teams will all end up beating each other up and only one will reach the final.

I think Lone Oak will be there at the end, but getting out of the region will be more difficult than a lot people like to believe, imo.