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Cincinnati 23 Cleveland 20

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Look, the bottom line is this. Without Palmer this team is in the tank. No way that they are gonna call a QB draw there regardless of the situation. He's the franchise, and that's not debatable. He lobbied to Marvin on the sideline not to kick it, and Marvin placed the game in his veteran QB's hands. He took what was available to him and it was the most important play of the game. But in no shape or form would anyone with a brain (insert favorite Jim Schue slam here) call the draw in that situation. Pressure came from the edges and left a huge void in the middle and CP took what they gave him. He was on the verge of finishing in a tie with the divisional cellar dwellers. No more, No Les. Wait, did I say Les? Where is Les anyway?

 

Is there a question about whether that was a called draw? It didn't look like a designed play to me. It looked like Carson saw the opening, knew the situation and made a play to get a fresh set of downs.

 

And, you're right about Carson. He's as important as any player in the league to his team.

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Laverneous Coles has been a huge disappointment to date. 4 games, 10 total receptions for a whopping 78 yards, 1 TD, numerous dropped balls, and - most telling - not even on the field in some crucial situations. He's gonna have to step it up big time to be worth anything close to his $28M contract.

It's the old sandlot play. "Everyone go deep, and I'll run it.":lol:

Laverneous Coles has been a huge disappointment to date. 4 games, 10 total receptions for a whopping 78 yards, 1 TD, numerous dropped balls, and - most telling - not even on the field in some crucial situations. He's gonna have to step it up big time to be worth anything close to his $28M contract.

 

He made the biggest play of the season IMO. I think they're 0-4 if he doesn't make the play.

He made the biggest play of the season IMO. I think they're 0-4 if he doesn't make the play.

 

While that catch was indeed important, he's not being paid that kind of money to catch 2 balls a game for an average of 7.8 yards per catch.

While that catch was indeed important, he's not being paid that kind of money to catch 2 balls a game for an average of 7.8 yards per catch.

I think he is talking about the fumble recovery in the GB game maybe.

Coles has done a great job blocking and is a great locker room guy. I'm ok with him so far, aside from the drops against Denver he has played ok. I expected more production but I think he is still contributing in differents ways.

Coles has done a great job blocking and is a great locker room guy. I'm ok with him so far, aside from the drops against Denver he has played ok. I expected more production but I think he is still contributing in differents ways.

 

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Doing things that this team has been in desperate need of the past few years...

QB draws with a 7 step drop? Nope, just great read by Palmer. No more, no Les. Wait, did I say Les?

 

Just saw the replay... He was in the shotgun and took three small steps back before taking off. I think he looked at one receiver before seeing the open field in front of him. Not trying to bring it all back up again, but just wanted to clear up this 7 step drop stuff because that is not what happened.

Just saw the replay... He was in the shotgun and took three small steps back before taking off. I think he looked at one receiver before seeing the open field in front of him. Not trying to bring it all back up again, but just wanted to clear up this 7 step drop stuff because that is not what happened.

How many steps can you take in the gun to get to a 7 step drop???

How many steps can you take in the gun to get to a 7 step drop???

 

Not the same thing at all. Sure you have the same depth, but it takes longer to get back to the same point if you are under center than if you are already back there.

I was at a charity auction this past weekend at Lindsey Wilson College and I bought a team picture autographed by Marvin Lewis. I think it doubled in price sunday! :D

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From Joe Reedy's Blog:

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/

 

Marvin Lewis wouldn’t flat out say that long snapper Brad St. Louis’ job is in peril, but on Monday it did sound for the first time that the team is pondering a change.

 

“Well, we have to take into consideration what’s best for the team. I’ll continue to say those same things on this subject,” Lewis said. “I’m comfortable that we need to do better. I’m confident in that, and we’re going to leave it at that.”

 

It was a much different tone from a week earlier when Lewis said: “We’re very confident with Brad, and he has done an excellent job for a long time. Brad doesn’t have missed snaps in practice. For whatever reason, they’ve shown up in the game.”

 

St. Louis, who is in his 10th season, has had four errant snaps in three games that have led to eight missed points (two field goals, two extra points). If you take a missed two-point conversion into account against Pittsburgh, an argument could be made that it is 10 points.

 

Against Cleveland, St. Louis had two high snaps, which resulted in a blocked field goal and extra point by Shaun Rogers.

 

Today is the player’s day off and usually a day when tryouts are held throughout the league. While the Bengals are not known to be bringing anyone in at the moment, it wouldn’t be surprising.

 

“We have to do better,” Lewis said. “Brad is aware that we have to do a lot better in special teams, in a bunch of different areas. So, we’ll work hard at that.”

 

Among some of the options out there, according to Adam Caplann of Scout.com are Nathan Hodel, JP Darche and Bryan Pittman.

Its gotta be mental with St. Louis because honestly its that hard to long snap. He did it great for a number of years so it has to be something in his head.

Coles has done a great job blocking and is a great locker room guy. I'm ok with him so far, aside from the drops against Denver he has played ok. I expected more production but I think he is still contributing in differents ways.

 

How do you know he's a "great locker room guy"? $7M a year for a decent blocking WR is a bit much. He was paid that kind of money to catch passes and stretch the field. He hasn't done it. Maybe he will, but from what I've seen so far, he has trouble even getting open and seems to be struggling getting separation from the DB's.

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