You know what makes me mad? When young people of a race use the same slurs they'd be offended about if another race called them that, to refer to each other. If it's wrong, it's wrong. Don't chastise Race X for using a slur that Race Y uses to refer to each other.

 

I don't know. I think it depends. I think it's kind of like this. Hypothetically of course....

 

I can call myself stupid if I fail one of my midterms. But, I might get upset if someone calls me an idiot after seeing my grades.

 

That isn't a great example, but I think that it's kind of different when you're referring to yourself or your friends than when someone else is saying it. If that make any sense at all.

 

I don't like it either, so I kind of agree with you, but it's really not my place.

I have met Rupp and he has been to my home. I know personally players that played for him. Was he racist...no. He recruited both Wes Unsel and Butch Beard. Wes Unsel's mom asked Rupp, can you guarantee my sons safety, Rupp's reply was no. Playing down south, I can not. Unsel and Beard both played for Louisville.

 

Some people just like to stir the pot, I'm sorry. As much as I despise UK I've never seen on solid shred of evidence that Rupp was racist. He did integrate the basketball program, and was one of the first teams in the SEC to integrate. Also 30+ years after his death does it really matter what he was or wasn't anymore?

 

I'd say that , yes, he was a racist by definition. I don't put too much into the fact that he tried to bring Wes Unseld or Butch Beard to UK as proof that he wasn't racist. He did that for one reason. They could help UK win.

 

As someone else pointed out being "racist" doesn't mean he was Klan-like. It just means that he felt they were inferior people.

This issue is one that really bothers me. I don't know if Adolph Rupp was a racist, but so many former players have said they do not believe he was. Like its been said he recruited African American players before the 66 championship game. Adolph Rupp also coached a high school team before coming to UK that had I believe 2 or 3 African American players. Dick Gabriel did a special on Adolph Rupp that was very good. In his heart deep down I don't know if he was racist, but I have never seen any evidence to make me think he was.

 

Now, whats sad is his reputation has been hurt because he is considered a racist. His name typically isn't in the discussion as much as it should be when talking about the all time best college coaches. Hes won 4 National titles, which is 2nd to Wooden and is the 3rd all-time leader in wins, and was 1st for probably 30 years.

He must have been a racist. I know for a fact that he didn't vote for Obama.

 

:lol:

Here's a great story about a kid who's trying to end racial slurs by all people.

That's a very good story.

 

As far as Rupp being a racist, not sure. Times were different then, but that doesn't justify hatred, bigotry, or anything else.

 

I don't know Rupp, I know of him and have read stories, but we'll never REALLY know.

 

This is a touchy subject though.

 

Later.

That's a very good story.

 

As far as Rupp being a racist, not sure. Times were different then, but that doesn't justify hatred, bigotry, or anything else.

 

I don't know Rupp, I know of him and have read stories, but we'll never REALLY know.

 

This is a touchy subject though.

 

Later.

It is a touchy subject because the state of Kentucky is known for very few things... most notably: Bourbon, horse racing, basketball, and the home of bugatti. Basketball in Kentucky is linked with Rupp and many like to still throw the fact that Rupp is considered by most to be a racist as a reflection of today's UK fans. No person likes being associated with racism.

Don't know Rupp personally, so I will just say from the outside looking in He looked to be someone who was a Racist.

Everyone, REMEMBER THE RULES, please!

It is a touchy subject because the state of Kentucky is known for very few things... most notably: Bourbon, horse racing, basketball, and the home of bugatti. Basketball in Kentucky is linked with Rupp and many like to still throw the fact that Rupp is considered by most to be a racist as a reflection of today's UK fans. No person likes being associated with racism.

 

I agree though, nobody likes being associated with racism....and in certain situations many cases of racism are either misunderstandings or something taken way out of context.

 

Later.

Is there anyone out there alive that is not at least a little bit racist? Haven't you ever seen that movie Crash.

Is there anyone out there alive that is not at least a little bit racist? Haven't you ever seen that movie Crash.

 

 

Great movie! Great, GREAT movie! :thumb:

Is there anyone out there alive that is not at least a little bit racist? Haven't you ever seen that movie Crash.

Good point.

 

Later.

Is there anyone out there alive that is not at least a little bit racist? Haven't you ever seen that movie Crash.

 

Depends on how you define the word.

 

If you use the "superiority based upon race" definition then I am not.

 

If you use the definition that deals with assigning beliefs based on one's race then, yes, I have been guilty of that and I think that's the definition used in your movie example.

It is a touchy subject because the state of Kentucky is known for very few things... most notably: Bourbon, horse racing, basketball, and the home of bugatti. Basketball in Kentucky is linked with Rupp and many like to still throw the fact that Rupp is considered by most to be a racist as a reflection of today's UK fans. No person likes being associated with racism.

 

I think you are dead on. :thumb: (even the last part with "the home of bugatti." :lol:)

 

One thing I have found interesting in the Rupp items, why is the same castigation not given others?

 

Bear Bryant did not play an African-American player until what, 1971? Why didn't he integrate Alabama sooner?

 

Darrell Royal did not play an African-American player until '72 at Texas (Roosevelt Leaks ?) I love Darrell Royal but his teams were also involved in the '60 Cotton Bowl vs. Syracuse and Ernie Davis (see "the Express") and while embelished in the film, a lot of the racial things did happen on that field.

 

When did Frank Broyles and Arkansas integrate? I think it was along the same time frame as Royal and Bryant.

 

I'm trying to remember if Branch McCracken had integrated Indiana by the time he left in '65?

 

I think you get my point. I believe the '66 Title game forever solidified people's opinions of Rupp on the subject and it will always be there.

Depends on how you define the word.

 

If you use the "superiority based upon race" definition then I am not.

 

If you use the definition that deals with assigning beliefs based on one's race then, yes, I have been guilty of that and I think that's the definition used in your movie example.

 

Few people think they're racist and fewer would admit it if they were. Slice it up anyway you like.