The interview of the Today Show is what alarmed me with the sociology professor, Eric Dyson. In essence, he was affirming Carter's comments and he was able to see all the racial undertones in Joe Wilson's comment.

 

My question is, what are you allowed to critique or disagree with now without being labeled a racist?

 

I completely agree, and I think a lot of this racial crap is just that, but I do feel in Obama's case, the color of his skin plays a role in people's dislike of him.

How is it that if a person says something that was done, that relates to anti-Obama sentiments, is racist, that's the immediate defense is [sic] "Well...there was racism that got him elected."

 

I'm stymied. I don't believe racism got Obama elected. I think a lack of viable options on the Repulican ticket got Obama elected.

 

How is it that when using racism as a reason for any white persons acts is incorrect, yet racism is ok to apply to those who voted for Obama?

 

I'm so confused.

 

White people seem to have no problem denying racism on their own part, but no problem as well applying it as a reason that things they didn't want, happened.

 

:thumb: I think what you're saying is, we are all racists, some people just lie about it.

The cover of newsweek 9-14-09 should answer the question of racism.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/214989

Read it how you want.

It had nothing to do with how I wanted to read it. It's just the way I did read it.

I believe that Carter is right to an extent. One would hope that our country would have moved beyond that, but some people obviously never will.:confused:

White people seem to have no problem denying racism on their own part, but no problem as well applying it as a reason that things they didn't want, happened.

 

:thumb: This also breeds this idea of the "oppression of white people" I often hear. First, you must deny racism exists in this country, or marginalize it to insignificance. Then, as a result, claim any use of the term "racism" is merely a quest for the subordination of white people.

 

As much of a bogeyman as he is, and as loathe as I am to quote him, I think Limbaugh's recent conclusion epitomizes the issue:

 

In Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, 'Yay, right on, right on, right on, right on...

How is it that if a person says something that was done, that relates to anti-Obama sentiments, is racist, that's the immediate defense is [sic] "Well...there was racism that got him elected."

 

I'm stymied. I don't believe racism got Obama elected. I think a lack of viable options on the Repulican ticket got Obama elected.

I don't think racism got him elected either. 43% of whites voted for him, that's a lot of people. This is the group that put him over the top, IMO.

 

How is it that when using racism as a reason for any white persons acts is incorrect, yet racism is ok to apply to those who voted for Obama?

 

I'm so confused.

Not sure who you're speaking to, but explain to me what was racist about "you lie".

 

White people seem to have no problem denying racism on their own part, but no problem as well applying it as a reason that things they didn't want, happened.

I'm amazed at how you can defend such an ignorant comment made by Carter. I'm also amazed that you think there is a such a large number of people that think Obama won because of his race. Do you have data to back that up, or just Democrat talking points? I don't deny that there are some that think that way, but I think they're very small in number.

Looks like 57% of white voters are racist to me.

And I'm sure all too many actually think that.

:thumb: This also breeds this idea of the "oppression of white people" I often hear. First, you must deny racism exists in this country, or marginalize it to insignificance. Then, as a result, claim any use of the term "racism" is merely a quest for the subordination of white people.

 

As much of a bogeyman as he is, and as loathe as I am to quote him, I think Limbaugh's recent conclusion epitomizes the issue:

You really "often" hear that? I have to be honest, that's the first time I've heard it.

 

I think you have to see that racism is definitely waning; how else do you explain his being elected?

As much of a bogeyman as he is, and as loathe as I am to quote him, I think Limbaugh's recent conclusion epitomizes the issue:

How in the world is that comment even relevant, much less accurate?

43% of white voters voted for Barack Obama.

95 - 96% of African Americans voted for Obama with a 2-percentage-point rise in their national turnout.

88% percent of the black vote went to John Kerry and 90% to Gore. While blacks vote overwhelmingly Democrat, Obama got quite a bump from black voters with a larger than usual turnout.

 

How much went to Clinton? Does anyone have numbers on the increase of black voter turnout from previous elections?

You really "often" hear that? I have to be honest, that's the first time I've heard it.

 

I think you have to see that racism is definitely waning; how else do you explain his being elected?

 

I hear it all the time. "No one is more discriminated against than the white males." I have students say it. I've also heard adults say it.

You were referring to the "mess" Bush inherited "from day one" ... 9/11 and Katrina occurred much later than his first day in office. There wasn't much of an economic mess, either.

 

Now if you want to refer to the events that happened on his watch, I won't disagree with you. But I would say the situation Obama inherited (two wars, one of which was totally unnecessary, and an economic mess) was worse than what Bush came in on.

 

Exactly. President Bush did have events occur that were not of his making, such as Katrina and 9/11, but he didn't inherit two wars and an economic disaster.

Cries of racism these days are the modern version of the "Boy who cried wolf" fable. I've gotten to the point that when I hear racism claims I just yawn and say "yeah, whatever". Too bad I suppose, because I'm sure there are real cases of racism that still exist.

Cries of racism these days are the modern version of the "Boy who cried wolf" fable. I've gotten to the point that when I hear racism claims I just yawn and say "yeah, whatever". Too bad I suppose, because I'm sure there are real cases of racism that still exist.

 

I believe that you are correct, at least to some degree.