May 12, 200917 yr Pete Rose was an awful 3B. If you can hit, they will find room for you. I think it looks something like this. 4256-15ish. BIG difference.
May 12, 200917 yr Author I think it looks something like this. 4256-15ish. BIG difference. Rosales and Rose are very similar in style of play, and talent level IMO. Rose obviously was a great hitter, and earned the right to play where ever, but his defense at 3B was still brutal. I would much rather take Rosale's fielding woes, and hustle, over E-5, if the hitting is going to be pretty close to the same.
May 12, 200917 yr I think it looks something like this. 4256-15ish. BIG difference.I think this deserves a visit from this guy:
May 12, 200917 yr Rosales and Encarnacion are basicly the same on D and their O is also very similar. I think the difference comes down to hustle. Plus I think Rosales will be more consistant at the plate where Edwin has major slumps and major hot streaks to bring his average around .250 ... I enjoy watching Rosales play and I think his teammates do as well. Go Reds! They can beat Haren tonight, but they are going to have to have a decent outing out of Owings on the hill and play much better defense. :thumb:
May 12, 200917 yr McDonald got in the game and grounded into a double play off of a position player who was pitching!!!! I know Dusty has his favorites (Patterson) but how does Walt let this continue without making a move????:irked::irked:
May 12, 200917 yr Rosales and Rose are very similar in style of play, and talent level IMO. Rose obviously was a great hitter, and earned the right to play where ever, but his defense at 3B was still brutal. I would much rather take Rosale's fielding woes, and hustle, over E-5, if the hitting is going to be pretty close to the same. Rose may have been the best hitter in the history of baseball. Rosales isn't one of the 5 best hitters in this organazation today. I don't mind him playing if he hits. I'm just not comparing him to Rose. If they hit the same I'd rather have EE. If Rosales is going to hit 20 points higher it's a no brainer. It's brutally bad to watch routine ground balls end up in LF or not turned into double plays. One of them needs to see if they can play LF. The only problem w/ that is Hairston will get some time out there too.
May 12, 200917 yr I think this deserves a visit from this guy: I didn't compare a 26 year old rookie to Rose.
May 12, 200917 yr Author Rose may have been the best hitter in the history of baseball. Rosales isn't one of the 5 best hitters in this organazation today. I don't mind him playing if he hits. I'm just not comparing him to Rose. If they hit the same I'd rather have EE. If Rosales is going to hit 20 points higher it's a no brainer. It's brutally bad to watch routine ground balls end up in LF or not turned into double plays. One of them needs to see if they can play LF. The only problem w/ that is Hairston will get some time out there too. There's no doubt that Rose is one of the greatest hitters of all time. Your statement however was that you can't have a third baseman that can't field the ball. I was showing that simply isn't true. I can't understand why you would rather have E-5 over Rosales if they hit the same. Why would you want someone that dogs it over somebody that is always busting his tail? You make it like E-5 is going to make a huge difference defensively. I think we all know that's not the case.
May 12, 200917 yr Rose may have been the best hitter in the history of baseball. Rosales isn't one of the 5 best hitters in this organazation today. I don't mind him playing if he hits. I'm just not comparing him to Rose. If they hit the same I'd rather have EE. If Rosales is going to hit 20 points higher it's a no brainer. It's brutally bad to watch routine ground balls end up in LF or not turned into double plays. One of them needs to see if they can play LF. The only problem w/ that is Hairston will get some time out there too. I think the way Nix has looked good in left field. Everyone needs to back off trying to put another player out there in his spot (or even platoon him with another player as mentioned in a previous post inside this thread). I think Thom said he has the 3rd most extra base hits on the team behind Bruce and Votto. That is saying a lot when he has half the number of at-bats that each of them do. Lets not start puting someone in his spot since he has earned that position daily at this point.
May 12, 200917 yr Author I think the way Nix has looked good in left field. Everyone needs to back off trying to put another player out there in his spot (or even platoon him with another player as mentioned in a previous post inside this thread). I think Thom said he has the 3rd most extra base hits on the team behind Bruce and Votto. That is saying a lot when he has half the number of at-bats that each of them do. Lets not start puting someone in his spot since he has earned that position daily at this point. Nix is 1-8 with 5 K's against left handed pitching. I don't see that as earning the position daily. I think a platoon is in order.
May 12, 200917 yr Nix is 1-8 with 5 K's against left handed pitching. I don't see that as earning the position daily. I think a platoon is in order. So you are willing to make that decision after only 9 at-bats against a lefty?:confused:
May 12, 200917 yr As it stands today, I'd keep Rosales at 3rd. This had to be Edwin's breakout season, and so far it ain't happenin.
May 12, 200917 yr Author So you are willing to make that decision after only 9 at-bats against a lefty?:confused: If he were making contact against lefties, then not so much, but 5 K's in 8 AB's is pretty telling. He hasn't looked very good at all in his AB's against lefties. Now right now I would play him over McDonald for sure, but when E-5 comes of the DL, then I would go with E-5 or Rosales against lefties over Nix.
May 12, 200917 yr If he were making contact against lefties, then not so much, but 5 K's in 8 AB's is pretty telling. He hasn't looked very good at all in his AB's against lefties. Now right now I would play him over McDonald for sure, but when E-5 comes of the DL, then I would go with E-5 or Rosales against lefties over Nix. Agreed, but I think it will be Hairston.
May 12, 200917 yr There's no doubt that Rose is one of the greatest hitters of all time. Your statement however was that you can't have a third baseman that can't field the ball. I was showing that simply isn't true. I can't understand why you would rather have E-5 over Rosales if they hit the same. Why would you want someone that dogs it over somebody that is always busting his tail? You make it like E-5 is going to make a huge difference defensively. I think we all know that's not the case. He actually is that much better defensively.
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