http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/40715327.html

 

I posted this in another thread but then decided it may need one of its own. Stinson admits he withheld water from players the same day Max Gilpin collapsed. He said Gilpin wasn't one of the players denied water. A high school kids sees others denied water at a practice he is not gonna ask the coach for water either. This guy just sealed his coaching career he should be prosecuted to the fullest and made an example of for his arrogance and stupidity.

The article is still very vague and still almost constitutes a witch hunt because he may have denied water but for 5 minutes, 10 minutes, all day. It never states how long. It is not unusual for players to ask a coach for a water break and the coach deny them until the drill is over or the coach may simply state in just a second. Still lots of variables to this and it is an unfortunate situation but calling for his head over this article isn't fair either IMO. It doesn't sound well I'll admit but let it go to the court first to fully get the facts before his career is hung eternally as you state.

I would like to know more about everything that happened at that practice but this could be the smoking gun. Ouch!

The article is still very vague and still almost constitutes a witch hunt because he may have denied water but for 5 minutes, 10 minutes, all day. It never states how long. It is not unusual for players to ask a coach for a water break and the coach deny them until the drill is over or the coach may simply state in just a second. Still lots of variables to this and it is an unfortunate situation but calling for his head over this article isn't fair either IMO. It doesn't sound well I'll admit but let it go to the court first to fully get the facts before his career is hung eternally as you state.

 

It doesn't matter how long it was. If it is as hot as they say they should never be stopped from getting a drink I don't care who you are. He openly admitted that he withheld water, he dug his own grave now he needs to lie in it.

It doesn't matter how long it was. If it is as hot as they say they should never be stopped from getting a drink I don't care who you are. He openly admitted that he withheld water, he dug his own grave now he needs to lie in it.

 

I know the KHSAA has a heat index that has to be reported, I did not think it was near that on that particular day. I may be wrong, I just though I read that earlier when this all broke last year.

I may be wrong but I think the heat index is 95 degrees and i think it was 94 that day if I am not mistaken. I may be wrong if so I am sorry about that. To me 1 degree isn't gonna change the effects on the kids. Hot is Hot no matter how you cut it.

Admitting any kind of guilt/responsibility is not the best thing you can do to try to get out of something like this when you are trying to. It can't help him.

As a coach you have to be smarter than that. It doesn't matter how upset you are with the effort the kids are putting forth, you can't deny them water.

I may be wrong but I think the heat index is 95 degrees and i think it was 94 that day if I am not mistaken. I may be wrong if so I am sorry about that. To me 1 degree isn't gonna change the effects on the kids. Hot is Hot no matter how you cut it.

 

That is what I remember reading too.

What would we have this coach do? Make up lies, acuse someone else? This is the first step to a resolution. Yes, I know, that a child died and that can not be undone.

 

His honesty could eventually help him get a more lenient punishment (if one is given). His honesty, no matter how poor the decision to withhold water is, may help the parents move on a little quicker, rather than pursue a long drawn out battle.

What would we have this coach do? Make up lies, acuse someone else? This is the first step to a resolution. Yes, I know, that a child died and that can not be undone.

 

He has already lied about it. In one of the first interviews he had he denied everything. So he has already set his own precidence and showing his word can not be trusted. This clown needs to be made an example of and let all the coaches across the state see that this negligence will not be stood for. He has no business being involved in the lives of young impressionable kids.

My brothers basketball team wasn't allowed water all year at practice. It's about being hydrated before the event takes place..

My brothers basketball team wasn't allowed water all year at practice. It's about being hydrated before the event takes place..

 

But your brother didn't practice out side in full gear and pads in 94 degree temps either. You have to be kidding me trying to compaare the two. There is no way you can honestly believe yourself with this lack of comparison for the two sports. You are trying to compare oranges and ?????????? I don't have a clue what comparison there is between the two.

I played football and had water held from us many a times. If you don't hydrate properly before practice there is nothing, once again nothing, that water during practice is going to do. It's to late..

I agree on hydration at home. When a football player is running drill's in the summer and the temp is 94 degrees it can get rough on the players. Water should be provided when the players need it.