SportsGuy41017 Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 I didn't see a thread on this yet, but the National Federation of State High School Associations have banned the A-11 offense.
BaseballIsLife Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Thanks rock. Was just reading up on it, it seems like it is a very interesting thing to run. It seems to me that it could get very complicated especially for adjustments and changing the play at the line. It seems like the ideal offense when you have lots of skill and athletic players that seem to do their best in open space. Seems like an extreme case of the spread offense. I think it would be interesting to learn!
barrel Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 They did not ban it. The clarifidy the scrimage kick formations rules. The offense took advantage of a loophole in the rules by using a rule in a way it was not intended. Now with the SKF rule clarified the loop hole is no longer there.
SportsGuy41017 Posted February 15, 2009 Author Posted February 15, 2009 They did not ban it. The clarifidy the scrimage kick formations rules. The offense took advantage of a loophole in the rules by using a rule in a way it was not intended. Now with the SKF rule clarified the loop hole is no longer there. Which basically kicked the A-11, as this is why the A-11 was even able to get off the ground. Even the people who came up with it, and their QB couldn't believe that it was legal.
ChiefSmoke Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 We used the loophole for about 10 years, but only on 4th down. We got the open punt formation from Sevierville, TN and it has been great for us. We have not had a blocked punt or a return for a TD since we installed it. It is a great look to fake from, but if the defense will stand and defend the fake, we are happy to punt it without a rush or a return. I didn't realize we could use it on every down until the A-11 came out. We played around with one set this year with 4 OL and a TE instead of the 5 OL. We used it very little but it had a place- it was the set we were in when we scored at the end of the half at Russell. As always, Russell defended it well, but it forced a one on one match up because there was quads to the right, a TE left, and a WR left. We were able to get our best WR all by himself and it worked out. I bought the set of A-11 dvd's last winter and looked at them. Great stuff, but not ready to go that direction completely, even though we were replacing our entire offensive line. I think it makes sense to allow the exception only on 4th down and with one man 10 yards deep. But, I also admire the coach that was innovative/creative in helping his kids be successful within the rules as they were. :thumb:
ebrown5606 Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 :popcorn: Should make for some good discussion when NKOA begins their off season rules study program this Wednesday and at the clinic on 3/21.
Clyde Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Can someone tell us how the rule changed exactly?
True blue (and gold) Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Which basically kicked the A-11, as this is why the A-11 was even able to get off the ground. Even the people who came up with it, and their QB couldn't believe that it was legal. Really? Can you elaborate or provide a link?
ebrown5606 Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 I just reviewed the latest press release from NFHS Meeting in INDY on 2/13/2009 and saw NO reference to A-11. :idunno: http://www.nfhs.org/web/2009/02/horsecollar_tackle_to_be_penali.aspx
born2reign Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Really? Can you elaborate or provide a link? When quarterback Jeremy George entered the Piedmont (Calif.) High School football coaches' office to talk to Kurt Bryan, he noticed an unusual formation on the dry-erase board. At first, George thought the formation was meant for the punt team. No, Bryan said, that's our new offense. George looked back to the board and was a little confused. "Initially, the first thought I had was, 'I'm pretty sure that's illegal,' " George said. "I've got to admit I thought it was a little crazy. I think most of the players thought it was crazy. A lot of people were a little skeptical." And for good reason. Bryan, Piedmont's coach, and Steve Humphries, the director of football operations, had developed an offense in which all 11 players on the field potentially are eligible to catch the ball. Though they weren't certain it was legal when they first concocted the idea, they were willing to implement it for the 2007 season. I think this is the article of reference. http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=825031
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