January 23, 200917 yr I know there are alot of other things involved in being a good president, but this issue always irks me, as well.
January 23, 200917 yr Author I know there are alot of other things involved in being a good president, but this issue always irks me, as well. Absolutely right. There have been a number of pro-life candidates who would have made/have made for less-than-ideal presidents. By the same token, I would think defending the most defenseless would be priority #1 for any American leader.
January 23, 200917 yr It costs thousands of bucks to birth a baby. It cost like 500 to kill one. What's wrong with that picture?
January 23, 200917 yr It costs thousands of bucks to birth a baby. It cost like 500 to kill one. What's wrong with that picture? Let me give you what your want - attention.
January 23, 200917 yr LINK Obama signed it quietly, without coverage by the media, late on Friday afternoon, a contrast to the midday signings with fanfare of executive orders on other subjects earlier in the week. If he is so proud of his stance on abortion then why wasn't this order given the fanfare of the others that have rolled back Bush polocies?:idunno:
January 23, 200917 yr This will happen everytime there is a change in political party, so get used to it. I would suggest to those that make themselves a one issue voters that really limit your power and influence with such a stand. If I know that having you on this one issue makes you a secure vote I have no need to concern myself with any other interests you may have.
January 23, 200917 yr For me the abortion issue was but one of a laundry list of reason that I didn't vote for Obama and it probably wasn't even in the top 10. I still want to know why if he is so proud of his stance on abortion he didn't give this order the fanfare of his others. He sure seemed want all of the attention his sycophants in the media were willing to give him on his other executive orders.
January 26, 200917 yr Author This will happen everytime there is a change in political party, so get used to it. I would suggest to those that make themselves a one issue voters that really limit your power and influence with such a stand. If I know that having you on this one issue makes you a secure vote I have no need to concern myself with any other interests you may have. "Get used to" butchering babies? No thanks. As far as labeling me a one-issue voter, so be it. You could be pro-life and still not get my vote. Ron Paul was pro-life, but I wouldn't have voted for him. Mitt Romney CLAIMED to be pro-life, but I wouldn't have voted for him either. But if you're pro-abortion, you will not get my vote under any circumstance. So I guess I am a one-issue voter in that respect, and I make no apologies for it. If the pols aren't going to defend the most innocent and vulnerable lives, someone must.
January 26, 200917 yr This will happen everytime there is a change in political party, so get used to it. I would suggest to those that make themselves a one issue voters that really limit your power and influence with such a stand. If I know that having you on this one issue makes you a secure vote I have no need to concern myself with any other interests you may have. I am much more concerned with how God will cast his vote on me during Judgement Day and my stance on abortion being one of the issues than I am how the US political parties view me. I do not see how any CHristian can vote for a pro choice candidate and really think that God won't care about that vote and their support of killing unborn babies come Judgement Day.
January 26, 200917 yr This bothers me more than just because of the abortion. If we have funds to be providing abortions in other countries why do we need high taxes on anyone to support stimulus packages. Looks like if the times are as bad as the President would suggest, we would focus on the home front first, rather than giving luxuries (In the sense that it's a choice) like abortions to other countries citizens.
January 26, 200917 yr I am much more concerned with how God will cast his vote on me during Judgement Day and my stance on abortion being one of the issues than I am how the US political parties view me. I do not see how any CHristian can vote for a pro choice candidate and really think that God won't care about that vote and their support of killing unborn babies come Judgement Day. I truly appreciate what you are saying and am Pro-Life as well, even did the march in Washington. However, this is so entangled with a person's privacy rights that I don't see how the Supreme Court will ever over turn it. Casey v. Planned Parenthood did about as much as it could to make it difficult to get an abortion, and I'm afraid that that is as good as it is going to get.
January 26, 200917 yr I truly appreciate what you are saying and am Pro-Life as well, even did the march in Washington. However, this is so entangled with a person's privacy rights that I don't see how the Supreme Court will ever over turn it. Casey v. Planned Parenthood did about as much as it could to make it difficult to get an abortion, and I'm afraid that that is as good as it is going to get. Than you need to really read the book by Jeffrey Tobin called the 9 and see how it came very, very close to being overturned with Casey. That upon first vote, IT WAS GOING TO BE OVERTURNED. And then behind the scenes dealing among 3 justices changed one of the votes. And some of those votes are now gone. Alito was on the appeal court that sent Casey to SC and their decision would have overtturned it. And his vote has replaced OConner, I believe, and she was one of the key behind the scenes movers who barely kept abortion legal.
January 26, 200917 yr Author This bothers me more than just because of the abortion. If we have funds to be providing abortions in other countries why do we need high taxes on anyone to support stimulus packages. Looks like if the times are as bad as the President would suggest, we would focus on the home front first, rather than giving luxuries (In the sense that it's a choice) like abortions to other countries citizens. Good point.
January 26, 200917 yr Than you need to really read the book by Jeffrey Tobin called the 9 and see how it came very, very close to being overturned with Casey. That upon first vote, IT WAS GOING TO BE OVERTURNED. And then behind the scenes dealing among 3 justices changed one of the votes. And some of those votes are now gone. Alito was on the appeal court that sent Casey to SC and their decision would have overtturned it. And his vote has replaced OConner, I believe, and she was one of the key behind the scenes movers who barely kept abortion legal. I know the story. Our professor told us all about it during Constitutional Law. I just don't see how it will be changed, if it wasn't then. I hope that it is, but the stars had aligned and it still couldn't overturn Roe v. Wade.
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