To answer the above posts, I offer the following:

 

http://lrc.ky.gov/KRS/072-00/025.PDF

 

My interpretation of that statute seems to indicate that an autopsy of Max was required by Kentucky law to be performed by the coroner.

 

When the coroner did not conduct an autopsy of Max, this law seems to require that law enforcement submit the matter to the Commonwealth's Attorney, pursuant to this statute:

 

http://lrc.ky.gov/KRS/072-00/020.PDF

 

At his option, the Commonwealth's Attorney can do this:

 

http://lrc.ky.gov/KRS/072-00/445.PDF

 

Here are some definitions to guide us:

 

http://lrc.ky.gov/KRS/072-00/405.PDF

 

This is extremely urgent in the case of a child under 18:

 

http://lrc.ky.gov/KRS/072-00/410.PDF

 

Law enforcement, the county coroner, and the Commonwealth Attorney are all tied up in this particular set of laws. It seems clear to me that not one but several subsections of the law are covered by these statutes, and particularly the one describing the death of a child under 18. When no autopsy is done in those circumstances, I think there are grounds for questioning the integrity of the motive for prosecution.

 

If it turns out later that facts surface that make me wrong, I will get on here and withdraw my statement and apologize.

 

Right now, something doesn't pass the smell test.

 

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Thank you. Although I'll never claim to have the legal knowledge that you have it just didn't seem like all obligations had been fulfilled to lead to an indictment.

Can you imagine what the kids are going through right now? Will they have to testify? They will be put in a terrible situation torn between a friends family and their coach, I hate this for the kids. It will be a mess.

The parents are going to be on The Early Show on CBS in a few minutes. National attention now on this story. Wow.

It was one of the stories on Sportscenter. They said the coach has been re-assigned to a different position within the school system where he won't interact with the kids.

I think that unless he specifically told the kids that they could not get a drink he should be ruled innocent. If he gave the team 3 water breaks during the practice there shouldn't even be a trial.

Very sad situation.

Apparently, the child was using Creatine, which his mother described in answers to interrogatories as a "muscle mass" supplement, although she claims he stopped using in July.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483027,00.html

 

One of the chief side effects of Creatine is dehydration, because the compound increases muscle mass with the rapid hydration of muscle cells. Unless Stinson knew that Gilpin was supplementing with Creatine, then I see this being a trial issue as to his cause of death.

 

Creatine IS legal as far as I know, but it is a compound that has only been studied extensively for about the last 10 years.

Edited January 27, 200917 yr by Hearsay

I hope my 67 year old father does not die of a heart attack this summer while mowing the yard in 94 degree heat index? Because they may indict my mother who knows he has a heart condition but could not stop him from mowing the yard if she wanted to. Tragic yes, criminal NO WAY!!! The players are under the care of the coach for 3-4 hours a day at most, and about 20 hours under the care of the parents. Coaches can only hydrate them during their watch, which anyone that has attended a medical symposium knows is not near as important as hydrating the athlete the rest of the day. Was he being properly cared for the rest of the day is a question that I hope is asked? I definitely have sympathy for the family of the player, but now have more for the coach. This man is not responsible for this tragic accident.

I hope my 67 year old father does not die of a heart attack this summer while mowing the yard in 94 degree heat index? Because they may indict my mother who knows he has a heart condition but could not stop him from mowing the yard if she wanted to. Tragic yes, criminal NO WAY!!! The players are under the care of the coach for 3-4 hours a day at most, and about 20 hours under the care of the parents. Coaches can only hydrate them during their watch, which anyone that has attended a medical symposium knows is not near as important as hydrating the athlete the rest of the day. Was he being properly cared for the rest of the day is a question that I hope is asked? I definitely have sympathy for the family of the player, but now have more for the coach. This man is not responsible for this tragic accident.

 

VERY significant point here. And yes...the medical symposiums cover it big.

Apparently, the child was using Creatine, which his mother described in answers to interrogatories as a "muscle mass" supplement, although she claims he stopped using in July.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,483027,00.html

 

One of the chief side effects of Creatine is dehydration, because the compound increases muscle mass with the rapid hydration of muscle cells. Unless Stinson knew that Gilpin was supplementing with Creatine, then I see this being a trial issue as to his cause of death.

 

Creatine IS legal as far as I know, but it is a compound that has only been studied extensively for about the last 10 years.

Makes one wonder what role all of the heat, supplements and practicing combined in this dreadful outcome.

I just read where the coach is speaking about the situation:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,482709,00.html

 

I was kind of torn between what I thought until I read this. How dare the coach make this loss his own. "The one thing people can't forget in this whole situation is that I lost one of my boys that day." This infuriates me. To compare his loss to that of the parents.

Then he point out his real concern. "Part of my life's been taken away," he said. "I no longer teach. I no longer coach." Everything the parents have lived for fifteen years is now gone.

 

I am sickened by these remarks. How dare him make himself into a victim. I have to go puke.

So coaches aren't supposed to care about their players. I don't think he was comparing his loss to the loss of the parents. Heck I used to get bummed when a good kid left the district or graduated much less died.

I just read where the coach is speaking about the situation:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,482709,00.html

 

I was kind of torn between what I thought until I read this. How dare the coach make this loss his own. "The one thing people can't forget in this whole situation is that I lost one of my boys that day." This infuriates me. To compare his loss to that of the parents.

Then he point out his real concern. "Part of my life's been taken away," he said. "I no longer teach. I no longer coach." Everything the parents have lived for fifteen years is now gone.

 

I am sickened by these remarks. How dare him make himself into a victim. I have to go puke.

 

I really can't help but think your anger is misplaced here. I expect that most coaches and teachers care about their players and students. Would you prefer him to be indifferent about the death of one?

I really can't help but think your anger is misplaced here. I expect that most coaches and teachers care about their players and students. Would you prefer him to be indifferent about the death of one?

I tend to agree with you here, as most feel the players are our family. From an impartial standpoint, Coach Stinson didn't want this result to happen, regardless of what medical attention happened. I feel he's speaking in regards to the tragic death and how it's not only affected the players family, but him and his family.

 

Whatever the litigation result, we all can only hope and pray, that never again does a student-athlete lose their life while participating in sports.

I just read where the coach is speaking about the situation:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,482709,00.html

 

I was kind of torn between what I thought until I read this. How dare the coach make this loss his own. "The one thing people can't forget in this whole situation is that I lost one of my boys that day." This infuriates me. To compare his loss to that of the parents.

Then he point out his real concern. "Part of my life's been taken away," he said. "I no longer teach. I no longer coach." Everything the parents have lived for fifteen years is now gone.

 

I am sickened by these remarks. How dare him make himself into a victim. I have to go puke.

 

So coaches aren't supposed to care about their players. I don't think he was comparing his loss to the loss of the parents. Heck I used to get bummed when a good kid left the district or graduated much less died.

 

I really can't help but think your anger is misplaced here. I expect that most coaches and teachers care about their players and students. Would you prefer him to be indifferent about the death of one?

 

I tend to agree with you here, as most feel the players are our family. From an impartial standpoint, Coach Stinson didn't want this result to happen, regardless of what medical attention happened. I feel he's speaking in regards to the tragic death and how it's not only affected the players family, but him and his family.

 

Whatever the litigation result, we all can only hope and pray, that never again does a student-athlete lose their life while participating in sports.

 

I strongly agree with pigman, Habib and Strike3. This man is in no way comparing his loss to that of the parents. Anyone that has ever coached knows - kids on your team become, in a way, like your own children. When they hurt and go through tragic events in their lives, you hurt, too. This man DID suffer a loss...and did not intentionally (or in actuality - time may tell) do anything to harm the kid.

Does anyone know where PRP plays their soccer games?

 

The part I am having trouble getting past are the "witnesses" that were watching a soccer game but claim to have heard what was being said on a football practice field.

They play soccer in their stadium and the football practice field is behind the bleachers (I think).