Let me repeat since its not getting through: IF IF IF the Reds are competing THIS YEAR for a pennant and a 40/100/100 guy is available for $8M (steal) then its a no-brainer. I've never bought into the "he's lazy" thinking. Its all about perception and a 6'6 275 pound guy is not going to look like Ryan Freel when he runs. I've never ONCE heard any negatives about Dunn's influence in the clubhouse. Its actually the opposite - great lockerroom guy.

 

$8M for big production if I think I can win this year? No freaking brainer.

 

Same argument for all that wanted to keep him here in the 1st place. Reds were finally smart enough to unload him. We should value Mr. Jockety's and quite a few other GMs take on Dunn and move on. Here's to the Reds 1st winning season since 1999, coincidentally the year before Dunn and his huge bat arrived.:walk:

Just saying they havent proved very much besides Ramirez, and if I had the chance to sign a veteran who is proven and could to that for me at 5 million I'd do it. But thats not the point, I dont see Dunns asking price coming down to our range or use even signing him. So beside Dickerson and Burrell who said was said to be out of price range but is close to a 2 year 16 million deal what other options are left? And what do we do at SS if Gonzo cant go, Keppinger is better coming off the bench for a spark

 

Kind of like Josh Fogg? That one worked out real well....

 

If Walt is going to get a RH run producer as his offseason goals suggested, it'll have to be via trade.

Same argument for all that wanted to keep him here in the 1st place. Reds were finally smart enough to unload him. We should value Mr. Jockety's and quite a few other GMs take on Dunn and move on. Here's to the Reds 1st winning season since 1999, coincidentally the year before Dunn and his huge bat arrived.:walk:

 

The Reds won't compete this year so I would have traded him as well. I hope I'm wrong. I doubt it.

Kind of like Josh Fogg? That one worked out real well....

 

If Walt is going to get a RH run producer as his offseason goals suggested, it'll have to be via trade.[/QUOT

 

Fogg was horrible and I never approved of it. I was talking more along the lines of Lowe/Penny although Lowe is way out of asking price. And yes if were going to have to get a bat its going to be via trade. With that do you see some young pithcers youve mentioned being involved?

Kind of like Josh Fogg? That one worked out real well....

 

If Walt is going to get a RH run producer as his offseason goals suggested, it'll have to be via trade.[/QUOT

 

Fogg was horrible and I never approved of it. I was talking more along the lines of Lowe/Penny although Lowe is way out of asking price. And yes if were going to have to get a bat its going to be via trade. With that do you see some young pithcers youve mentioned being involved?

 

They would have to be part of the deal. I don't see a deal happening though. The OF will probably be Dickerson, Taveras, Bruce with Phillips batting in the 4th spot again this year.

 

Just curious would you approve the Reds signing Penny for 8 million? Because that is likely what his salery will be this season

I'd like to see him back, never wanted to get rid of him in the first place.

 

They would have to be part of the deal. I don't see a deal happening though. The OF will probably be Dickerson, Taveras, Bruce with Phillips batting in the 4th spot again this year.

 

Just curious would you approve the Reds signing Penny for 8 million? Because that is likely what his salery will be this season

 

8 million for a year is pushing it, if he returned to form and stayed healthy it might be worth it but I wouldnt risk it and thats why I believe his salary would be that this season because of incietives he could recieve.

 

8 million for a year is pushing it, if he returned to form and stayed healthy it might be worth it but I wouldnt risk it and thats why I believe his salary would be that this season because of incietives he could recieve.

 

He has a 5 million base.

 

Gets 3 extra million for reaching 160 innings

So you want to pay a guy 16 mil for two years, that is an avg (I think that is a stretch) fielder, is limited at the plate, is a LH bat (which they don't need) and can't get out of the way of himself on the base paths. Plus exudes laziness which the young players on this club don't need to be exposed to. If you would like the Reds to continue to compete in the NL subCentral then I see where you think it's a good idea..

The Reds could also use a guy that gets on base at a healthy clip ... they already have too many guys in the lineup that don't.

If he was right handed I'd pay him 10 Mil.

If he was right handed I'd pay him 10 Mil.

 

If he could hit lefties at all, I'd think about it. He is so one sided at the plate he really needs to be platooned.

He has a 5 million base.

 

Gets 3 extra million for reaching 160 innings

 

If he is effective enough to eclipse 160 innings, he'll be a steal at $8 Million. If he's healthy, and that's the only way he'll reach 160 innings, he's got the stuff to be a #3 starter on most staffs. And if he isn't effective the $5 Million for one year won't cripple the Sox.

 

That being said I think Dunn would also be a steal at $16 Million for 2 years. This Reds team will be lucky to reach 75 wins if they have to play Dickerson and Taveras every day and hit Phillips cleanup again. It would be nice to add a righthanded bat but Dunn would be better than going into the season with the outfield that they currently have.

If he is effective enough to eclipse 160 innings, he'll be a steal at $8 Million. If he's healthy, and that's the only way he'll reach 160 innings, he's got the stuff to be a #3 starter on most staffs. And if he isn't effective the $5 Million for one year won't cripple the Sox.

 

That being said I think Dunn would also be a steal at $16 Million for 2 years. This Reds team will be lucky to reach 75 wins if they have to play Dickerson and Taveras every day and hit Phillips cleanup again. It would be nice to add a righthanded bat but Dunn would be better than going into the season with the outfield that they currently have.

 

I agree with everything you say here

Dunn has already informed the Reds when they called, & yes they did call, that he is in no way shape or form interested in coming back to Cincy.

Owings is in turmoil right now with his rocky season last year. If you could tell me he'd win 13-15 games and hit like he can then I'd agree and say the rotation is fine, but you cant. Ive heard if he doesnt make it as the 5th starter hes gone anyway.

 

 

Is there a link or something where you read that?