I don't think many of the Democrat candidates are willing to pull the belt tighter. But to be fair, neither was Bush and his Republican Congress. :irked:

 

That's what I was thinking.

That's easy to answer...John Kerry!

 

I don't think he could have screwed up nearly as bad as our current President has.

Everything will be great in 4 years.He will make sure all can stay in their homes,pay their bills and have health care.Free money for everyone.:dancingpa:dancingpa along with big government.:eek::eek:

 

I thought McCain was the one wanting the buy up all the mortgages and sell them back to everybody at better rates?

Nothing will change their mind, a vast majority of these Obama supporters seem to be following the the piper to whatever tune he plays.

 

I don't think his supporters will do anything.

 

He will get on tv make a wonderful speech about how screwed up everything was when he got in office, that it will take him 4 more years to fix it. Then the sheep will obey. 4 years after that, same thing and the sheep will want the 2 term limit dropped. His supporters then will say how racist everyone is for not supporting dear leader.

 

 

Of what value are either of these two comments? Obama supporters are implied rats, and stated sheep! Have some respect, and realize that Obama supporters are made up of many, MANY people who are thinking, analyzing and coming up with a decision that is different than yours.

It probably will take more than four years to straighten this mess out.

It probably will take more than four years to straighten this mess out.

 

Maybe for Obama.

I thought McCain was the one wanting the buy up all the mortgages and sell them back to everybody at better rates?

Obama also said we need to buy these up but he just didn't go into detail of what to do after that.

Of what value are either of these two comments? Obama supporters are implied rats, and stated sheep! Have some respect, and realize that Obama supporters are made up of many, MANY people who are thinking, analyzing and coming up with a decision that is different than yours.

 

I said many, not all. That is a statement I will stand by. I am currently in the college age voting population. I see many of my fellow students singing Obama's praises on a daily basis. You ask them why, the only answer they can come with is "because he represents change" with no definition of what change actually is, or "George Bush is a Nazi, and I won't vote for McBush".

If Obama wins, I will support him and hope he does well. While I will not vote for him and don't feel he is the best choice, ... I will support whomever is elected until the time that they do things to lose my support. I am not one of these that hope he fails and loses a bid for re-election. I want our country to excel.

Maybe for Obama.

 

So you're saying McCain can clean this up in four years. He won't have GW to vote with 91% of the time, so I'm not so sure.

It probably will take more than four years to straighten this mess out.

I'm sorry, but with a Democrat controlled House and Senate (assuming 60+ Dems are in the Senate), if Obama's policies don't straighten things up a bit (and FWIW, if the economy tanks even more, I will blame it on the bailout which Obama supported- as well as McCain), then either A) his policies don't work or B) he can't get fellow Democrats to support him. Either of which is unacceptable.

It probably will take more than four years to straighten this mess out.

 

It will be the American people who straighten it out, not government which will only make it worse. The best example is FDR's attempts to end the Depression which turned it into the Great Depression that would last until WWII came along.

I expect that President Obama will be unable to deliver all that he has promised. That is unfortunate, but it is the norm. He will however, be able to deliver more of what he promises than a candidate that doesn't want to try to achieve these things. I'll give you an example from my youth. President Kennedy set a goal of going to the moon before the end of the sixties. We made it, but would he have been any less inspirational if the lunar landing had been delayed until 1973? I think that a lot of people doubted our ability to reach the moon that quickly. From what I have read, neither President Kennedy nor NASA had any idea how we would do it. Leaders have to set goals that will be hard to reach if they are to accomplish great things. Senator Obama has set some very lofty goals. Will he achieve all of them? No, but we will be much farther down that road than we would be if we never tried.

 

Ok, that's perfectly fair. But as a premise you have that Obama will at least have made some progress toward that which he has championed. So, for example, if in 4 years NO legislation has been introduced attempting to rectify health care, and the same number of Americans are still uncovered and the Americans are paying the same level or more in premiums, could we say that Obama's glorious prognostications were nothing more than hot air?

So you're saying McCain can clean this up in four years. He won't have GW to vote with 91% of the time, so I'm not so sure.

 

Did I say that? Don't think Obama voting 96% of the time with Pelosi is going to fix much either.

I'm sorry, but with a Democrat controlled House and Senate (assuming 60+ Dems are in the Senate), if Obama's policies don't straighten things up a bit (and FWIW, if the economy tanks even more, I will blame it on the bailout which Obama supported- as well as McCain), then either A) his policies don't work or B) he can't get fellow Democrats to support him. Either of which is unacceptable.

Very true. Many people are underestimating the fact that Obama is going to have a congress with the makeup to pass the policies he wants with relative ease.