This will either make McCain or break him. I hope this ushers in the supporters of Hillary!

 

I do not think McCain has to get the Hillary supporters. He just needs to get the moderates/independents that are undecideds.

Having a woman on a national ticket will resonate with women just as having an African American on a national ticket will with African Americans. Right or wrong, who knows.

How many would have thought this possible, say 10 years or so ago.

 

I'll have to read some more about her but she will be the most visually stunning, VP candidate.

She has served as a Govenor.....that is moe "Executive" experience that Obama or Biden combined. A Senator is not an "Executive" office I don't believe.

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The problem with the above, while true, is that its only a matter of degrees. You can't say "experience counts" and then say "sure, she doesn't have much but she has more than Obama." 2 years ago she was a mayor of 9000 people.

 

With this choice, McCain has walked away from the "experience is important" issue IMO.

No way. And it's a matter of policies and politics. If it were just about supporting their own, Alan Keyes would squeek out just a bit more support, or Mondale/Ferraro may have been a tad more competitive.

 

If it is then why will 90+% of african americans vote for Obama??? I wish it were about policies and politics, but it clearly is not in all cases and to discount that it shortsighted (like I said right or wrong).

If it is then why will 90+% of african americans vote for Obama??? I wish it were about policies and politics, but it clearly is not and to discount that it shortsighted (like I said right or wrong).

 

Uhh, this might be a shocker, but black people predominately vote Democrat, and (gasp) might agree with Obama. Sure, some people are voting for him because of his race or because he shares their race, but rest assured they were not voting Republican.

I agree.

 

I’ve said it before and I’ll resurface it here: a conservative will not win this election. McCain was the only chance Republicans had. He had a record of independence from partisanship and had a proclivity to say unpopular things if they were true. Over the last few weeks he’s moved away from that and attempted to fit into the standard Republican mold. A pick of someone as conservative as Palin is only going to drive moderates and undecideds out of the booth or to Obama.

 

McCain’s selection of Palin not only acknowledges Obama’s message of change, thus giving it credence, it advocates it.

 

This is not going to drive women to vote for McCain. First, it’s obvious pandering, most people will see through it. Second, if a person was considering a vote for Hilary and now considers voting for McCain because of Palin they are supremely delusional or do not understand Hilary Clinton’s stances on issues. I would imagine this constitutes a very, very small group of people.

 

The timing is way off for a pick like this. Maybe, earlier this summer when Clinton was silent on Obama and the specter of angry women hung over the Democrats, Palin could have moved some votes and put Clinton on the defensive. Instead, Clinton rode the coat tails of drama all the way to the convention then, it what most consider an excellent speech, mended wounds and sent the party off to vote for Obama. After the convention, angry Clinton supporters have been severely subdued.

 

Her inexperience is a factor and will not be negated by Obama’s, especially considering McCain’s age. Despite having more “executive” experience, Palin is overall less experienced than Obama and doesn’t have quite the resume (Harvard Law). She also has, remarkably, less foreign policy experience than Obama - though I think that is an area where McCain did not necessarily need strong support. However, Biden will certainly have a massive advantage in that regard heading into the debates.

 

I’ve always liked John McCain, and I don’t have anything against Sarah Palin, but this is not a good pick.

 

Were any posters who love this pick seriously considering voting for Obama? That is a deafening “no.”

 

1) Yes, it is going to drive this woman to vote for McCain.

 

2) I've never thought of myself as being delusional but if I am then I

guess I am.

 

I have been and always will be a Hillary/Bill fan....and I will never say other wise. I cannot vote for Obama...and I really don't know why, he just worries me greatly. I don't know that I could have voted for him even if he had picked Hillary as his VP but not picking her just ticked me off.

 

I am worried about McCain but not to the extent that I am Obama. Now that McCain has had the good sense to pick a woman then my vote is his. I think she's a hard working woman who loves her family and her country and has worked hard for both. I think that it's time we had someone in there that hasn't spend any time in Washington. It never hurts to have a fresh face and some fresh ideas...and it doesn't hurt my feelings that she's a woman:thumb:

 

Oh and I almost forgot...there are times...and this is one of them...that I like to be pandered to.

So everyone that says this is a great pick has no problem with this woman being a heart attack away from being president.

Not nearly as much as Pelosi being 2 heart attachs away.

Uhh, this might be a shocker, but black people predominately vote Democrat, and (gasp) might agree with Obama. Sure, some people are voting for him because of his race or because he shares their race, but rest assured they were not voting Republican.

 

Thanks you made my point for me! People make their choice for a variety of reasons, race/gender is one of them. You attempted to discount that factor, which IMO is shortsighted. Some people is all you need in a close election which this one clearly is.

Not nearly as much as Pelosi being 2 heart attachs away.

 

That is true.

I am still confused why Obama's lack of experience is being canceled by Palin's? Last time I checked Palin was on the undercard and Obama was the main event.

1) Yes, it is going to drive this woman to vote for McCain.

 

2) I've never thought of myself as being delusional but if I am then I

guess I am.

 

I have been and always will be a Hillary/Bill fan....and I will never say other wise. I cannot vote for Obama...and I really don't know why, he just worries me greatly. I don't know that I could have voted for him even if he had picked Hillary as his VP but not picking her just ticked me off.

 

I am worried about McCain but not to the extent that I am Obama. Now that McCain has had the good sense to pick a woman then my vote is his. I think she's a hard working woman who loves her family and her country and has worked hard for both. I think that it's time we had someone in there that hasn't spend any time in Washington. It never hurts to have a fresh face and some fresh ideas...and it doesn't hurt my feelings that she's a woman:thumb:

 

Oh and I almost forgot...there are times...and this is one of them...that I like to be pandered to.

 

So you are voting for McCain because he picked a woman as his vice presidential candidate?

No way. And it's a matter of policies and politics. If it were just about supporting their own, Alan Keyes would squeek out just a bit more support, or Mondale/Ferraro may have been a tad more competitive.

 

Mondale was a such a muppet that he could have maybe had JC on the ticket and still lost.

Uhh, this might be a shocker, but black people predominately vote Democrat, and (gasp) might agree with Obama. Sure, some people are voting for him because of his race or because he shares their race, but rest assured they were not voting Republican.

 

Right now it appears to be about 10% of the black vote, based on historical voting figures.

:thumb: I am very, very happy with this pick!

 

Rush Limbaugh loves it as well.

Not nearly as much as Pelosi being 2 heart attachs away.

 

Good point, whichever ticket wins I want them to stay healthy and never ride in the same car or plane together.