http://www.wkyt.com/wymtnews/headlines/26300249.html

 

Data released shows about 70 percent of the school districts in our region met all of their most recent goals under No Child Left Behind.

 

For the handful of schools that did not make the cut, it may not be an accurate reflection of students' progress.

 

The state as a whole met 20 of 25 target goals for No Child Left Behind.

 

Many educators, including here, say unfair testing and promised funding that never came left them behind.

 

Clay County fell short in reading proficiency among children with disabilities.

 

“You make accommodations for their disabilities all year long, but then you come into the NCLB and you test them as if they have no disabilities at all,” Clay County Superintendent Doug Adams said.

 

Clay County Superintendent Doug Adams says their students improved on CATS testing, but now they're scrambling to figure out where to concentrate resources to keep up with NCLB's rigid measurements.

If you take out the areas were students with disabilties fall short, the state does very well on the tests. Some of the students with disabilties just will never measure up and it is foolish for the federal government to think they can be educated at high levels in all areas. This is not to say that these students cannot become proficient in areas that they are interested in, auto body, art design or welding, some may even go on to college. But their disabilties hold them back in some areas.

If you take out the areas were students with disabilties fall short, the state does very well on the tests. Some of the students with disabilties just will never measure up and it is foolish for the federal government to think they can be educated at high levels in all areas. This is not to say that these students cannot become proficient in areas that they are interested in, auto body, art design or welding, some may even go on to college. But their disabilties hold them back in some areas.

 

Your knowledge of the disable to say the least seems limited. I work with handicapped adults on a daily basic, and when given a chance under the correct conditions, do quite well thank you. They work (and I have ran businesses in the private sector) and try harder than most able adults that I have run across. BTW they also want to work on computers, in stores, factories, and one handicapped neighbor of mine is working on his Law Degree at Chase Law school in NKy.

Your knowledge of the disable to say the least seems limited. I work with handicapped adults on a daily basic, and when given a chance under the correct conditions, do quite well thank you. They work (and I have ran businesses in the private sector) and try harder than most able adults that I have run across. BTW they also want to work on computers, in stores, factories, and one handicapped neighbor of mine is working on his Law Degree at Chase Law school in NKy.

You saved me a post..and said it much better than I could have! :thumb:

 

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to finish pounding out this fender.

NCLB is a total joke.

^ I agree...NCLB is an absolute joke and if the reports don't show 100% then guess what, that means children were left behind...And half of these teachers don't do what they're supposed to be doing..It's not very well mandated, and having done numerous hours of observations at different schools, it's clear that nothing has changed in the classroom and it never will. This act was a joke.

^I agree with you as well.

 

 

From KDE:

http://education.ky.gov/KDE/HomePageRepository/News+Room/Current+Press+Releases+and+Advisories/08-056.htm

 

(FRANKFORT, Ky.) -- Data indicate that 70.9 percent -- 820 -- of Kentucky's 1,157 public schools made Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP) in the 2007-08 school year under the requirements of the federal No Child Left Behind (NCLB) Act, the Kentucky Department of Education announced today.

 

And here are the reports:

 

http://apps.kde.state.ky.us/secure_cats_reports_08/

NCLB is a total joke.

 

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This is the only thing that George W. Bush did during his whole term as President - and its wrong. :thumb:

Who cares because a new President is coming in and true to form, we will have their view of how to save education to deal with. It changes, basically, with every President and governor.

Who cares because a new President is coming in and true to form, we will have their view of how to save education to deal with. It changes, basically, with every President and governor.

 

Nothing wrong with that. If an elected leader takes a position to change or do something then it is not a bad thing if they actually set out to do it.

 

Conversely, to complain about a President and/or governour if they make changes - for instance, Bush on his great Texas experiment called NCLB, or as Secretary Spellings calls it "righteous cause" and one takes exception to their platform but supported them because of their other stances, well - you get what you ask for.

I would also add the areas of concern on NCLB do deal with special needs students. The part of the student body that is also covered by IDEA. The federal mandate to force all schools to work with all students. IDEA was also suppose to pay 1/3 of the cost. To date, they only pay 18%.

 

Interesting correlation between the federal testing program and its poor results in a part of the population the federal government considers most at need but fails to even live up to their end of the agreement.

Nothing wrong with that. If an elected leader takes a position to change or do something then it is not a bad thing if they actually set out to do it.

 

Conversely, to complain about a President and/or governour if they make changes - for instance, Bush on his great Texas experiment called NCLB, or as Secretary Spellings calls it "righteous cause" and one takes exception to their platform but supported them because of their other stances, well - you get what you ask for.

 

Have you ever been a teacher?

 

How would you like about 90% of what you have to do as a teacher to change every 4 years or so?

 

We have spent the past 4-6 years in numerous PD's either learning what we need to do for NCLB or the changes recently made in the KY testing system.

 

Great chance that both are going to change and everything we have been taught, told to do, and changed lesson plans for in the past 4-6 years is of no use.

 

We will spend the next 4-6 years learning, analyzing, and studying what we are supposed to do for the next group of politicians KNOWING that in about 7-8 years all that we have learned is of no use.

 

How about the politicians let the education people handle education and them stick to politicking.

I would also add the areas of concern on NCLB do deal with special needs students. The part of the student body that is also covered by IDEA. The federal mandate to force all schools to work with all students. IDEA was also suppose to pay 1/3 of the cost. To date, they only pay 18%.

 

Interesting correlation between the federal testing program and its poor results in a part of the population the federal government considers most at need but fails to even live up to their end of the agreement.

 

Just for the record, one are of special needs students that is overlooked IMMENSELY because it is not politically smart to wave the banner of these students, are the gifted and talented students.

Have you ever been a teacher?

 

How would you like about 90% of what you have to do as a teacher to change every 4 years or so?

 

We have spent the past 4-6 years in numerous PD's either learning what we need to do for NCLB or the changes recently made in the KY testing system.

 

Great chance that both are going to change and everything we have been taught, told to do, and changed lesson plans for in the past 4-6 years is of no use.

 

We will spend the next 4-6 years learning, analyzing, and studying what we are supposed to do for the next group of politicians KNOWING that in about 7-8 years all that we have learned is of no use.

 

How about the politicians let the education people handle education and them stick to politicking.

 

This is what I love most about the teaching profession. Just leave us alone and don't hold us accountable and don't make us improve, and oh by the way pay us more.

 

Guess what, go get a reality check - those who work in various industries except for the safe haven of tenure change literally daily. It is called being effective, improving, etc. EVERYONE who works will agree change is something that is not an option but an expected requirement. Oh, in my work, I change 100% every chance I get to be better than what I am up against or compared to. So I embrace it. Your words clearly show you resent anyone coming into your classroom and pointing out where things need to be better.

 

By the way, the education people had their chance to run education. Everyone should have a boss. Teachers seem to have forgotten about that years ago.