Go outside? Go outside and get a quick breath of fresh, non-cancerous air before going right back into breath in the smokey junk?

 

Thats a Choice that I could make once upon a time ago in the Great Old USA...:creepy:

I could care less if a Restaurant Is Dirty...If I read in the paper under inspections that a restaurant failed there Health Dept inspection or got a low score...I as a individual person using my own brain will not eat at that business...

 

I am exercising my god giving freedom of choice...:thumb:

There is already a ton of non smoking restaurants in NKY. To act like you don't have a choice is comical.

 

Patrons have a choice but not the employees. Employee rights are the premise behind most non-smoking laws. Restaurant employees, vendors and service companies don’t have a choice to pack up and go down the street to a non-smoking establishment. Someone shouldn’t have to quite their job because they can’t stand the cancer sticks the boss or clientele are smoking.

Patrons have a choice but not the employees. Employee rights are the premise behind most non-smoking laws. Restaurant employees, vendors and service companies don’t have a choice to pack up and go down the street to a non-smoking establishment. Someone shouldn’t have to quite their job because they can’t stand the cancer sticks the boss or clientele are smoking.

 

Employees have the right to work somewhere else...Unless the business was non smoking when they started there,and then they became a business that allows smoking?

Employees have the right to work somewhere else...Unless the business was non smoking when they started there,and then they became a business that allows smoking?

 

Like it or not AA, the day's of smokers smoking in public places is fast coming to an end. In not that many years from now, the subject won't matter as so few people will be smoking, that when you see a person smoking, you will feel sorry for them knowing they are so addicted to smoking, that they can't quit! Really sad when you think about it!

 

BTW just here on BGP's you can see how few of the members smoke! Ten out of 62 and half of them say they don't smoke all that often!

 

Yes, I'm a heavy (or skinny) smoker		5	8.06%
Yes but not to often		5	8.06%
Nope		52	83.87%

Who the heck grills once a month? I grill out at least 3 times a week and the the smoke off a grill is a lot more than three or four cigs.

 

Yet another horrible analogy, you're talking about stuff that doesn't impact people on a daily basis. Smoking does every day. I think the smoking ban isn't good for business, but I completely disagree with the arguement that you're supporting.

Oh really? There was a story just recently around here where a guy died because he was served the wrong thing, it had shellfish in it, he didn't know it and it killed him. So much for it being the most horrible analogy you've ever read. What about peanuts? I suppose you think that's another horrible analogy.

 

One story,.... You're talking about one story. Thousands of people are diagnosed with cancer, which is linked to second hand smoke. You're stretching with all of these "examples" it's hard to stomach.

I don't like people spitting within 5 ft of me and I get the crap on the bottom of shoes. Kind of like a kid spitting out chewing gum on a hot summer day.

 

The same could be said about people spitting in general.... Are we going to regulate that as well. Come to think of it, I really don't like when people breathe to heavily around me......

Tell that to the guy that goes into anaphylactic shock at the mere whiff of peanuts or the family of the guy that died from the shellfish. Truth is, secondhand might or might not harm you, there are studies that argue both sides. The allergies I posted can kill on the spot. Whens the last time you saw someone keel over in a restaurant from secondhand smoke?

 

Yes we're killing you softly with second hand smoke, so it's not a big deal. What you're speaking of are accidents or mistakes. That's life, those kinda things happen, but the smoking thing is a different story. Some people, especially children don't get to choose whether or not they're exposed to second hand smoke.

Don't get ahead of your self. Ashland has a "Smoking Ban", I have been asked to step outside with snuff in my mouth, because, I was told that there was a "Tobacco ban" in the city while in public buildings.

 

Give an inch, they take a mile.

 

I have had the same, tobacco in certain settings just shouldn't be allowed. I agree with that. Restrants, I can see where they wouldn't want smoking or dipping. Bars on the other hand, well I think that's just bad for business. But it'd be alot less likely to have a no dipping ordinance. However, I suppose it's possible they write it as a non tobacco type of thing. However I just don't see that as being very likely.

Again, that's progressing it on to places it would not and should not go. It's like saying if we ban plastic explosives, we'll surely be banning fireworks next..then candles...then matches. Oh my God, where will it stop! :scared:

 

See, it just doesn't make sense to say that an effort to protect the public health shouldn't be undertaken because it would somehow automatically lead to banning ridiculous things.

 

Ah no.... Not the matches, what about the Cigar smokers!!!! lol:laugh:

I have no problem with banning smoking in restaurants. If you want to smoke, go outside and stop your whining.

 

Bars are a different story. If I go to a bar, I expect drinking and smoking. Banning smoking in a bar is stupid.

 

I agree completely. Part of the reason I get banning smoking at restrants is because of who may be there. Children, kids shouldn't be at a bar, end of discussion.

Edited July 14, 200818 yr by STRIKE3

Then I guess it should be up to the owner as to whether or not they feel like cleaning the restaurant too?

 

It might be that simple, IN YOUR OPINION, but your opinion doesn't speak for everyone.

 

:thumb: I've been trying not to sound like an insensitive jerk in this thread, but it's not easy.

And you are.

Edited July 14, 200818 yr by Ram

Do we have a right to a sanitary environment in a privately owned business?

 

By FDA definition, yes. That doesn't answer my question since the FDA has not banned smoking in restaurants.

 

So, again, is there something that says we have a right to no smoke in the air in privately owned restaurants?