Free - Public Schools IF you are attending the public school in your district.

 

OR - as in the 16th region- all the puplic schools have reciprocal agreements with each other and can go wherever without paying.

OR - as in the 16th region- all the puplic schools have reciprocal agreements with each other and can go wherever without paying.

Exactly.

You are cracking me up.:lol::lol:

 

I guess you would then call out Highlands that all of their championships are paper championships since they didn't beat T nor X for those titles.

 

How about it Highlands fans, do you feel your championships are "very hollow?"

 

Or Beechwood, or NCC or CovCath. You guys beat your chests but in reality feel your championships are hollow?

 

Those guys seem to be pretty happy with the success they have had.

 

How about the NKU women's basketball championship? Is it hollow ladies and fans because you didn't beat UT for the title????

 

No, I bet they feel they worked hard and won their championships and are proud of it.

 

I know the young lady at our school who won a Cross Country state championship in her class feels she won a state championship and is proud of it. So are her parents. So, is her school. So, is her community.

 

But I guess you would try and convince her that somehow she is less than a state championship because she didn't compete against your favorite girls private school.

 

As I said, you are cracking me up.:lol::lol::lol:

 

Glad to provide some entertainment for you, so you can take a break from crowing about the inequalities faced by the so-called "rural schools"!!

 

As long as the state sactioning body and their members chose to classify sports, then I agree anyone winning one of those championships has every right to be quite proud and declare themselves "State Champions"!! And for that matter, in KY I feel any one of the small schools winning the All "A" Classic in thier given sport has every right to declare the same (being the champion of 16 regions and a field of 120 vs. about 35-40 in football is enough for me)!!

 

My main problem is with those who chose to try to gain success on the field of play by continually banning the more successful of their peers, until hopefully they pare the field enough to find success themselves?? Anyone who thinks these "ban the privates" supporters will stop there are just kidding themselves. Once they accomplish that goal, then it will be "ban the independents" such as Highlands and Beechwood; then "ban the open enrollment schools", or even "ban the non-rural schools"??

 

And for the record, I think 6 classes in football for a state with about 230 schools playing the game is absurd!!

Would this change the dynamics of anything? If so, how? If not, why not?

If you weren't what you were you wouldn't be what you are....

 

The lack of tuition would make the perceived value of going to St X less. Keep in mind that there academically equitable (or arguably superior) options in the public school sector already. The truth, whether you want to believe it or not is that the tuition "keeps out" the inherent problems that come with students from lower socio-economic areas. These problems often show themselves in disruptive disciplinary activities, even in those kids that are very academically gifted. The influx and increase of disciplinary problems would quickly lead to a reaction by parents in finding "safer" more "disciplined" options for school.

 

In other words you would inherit the same problems public schools have, those very same problems that make parents choose to send there kids to private schools.

If you weren't what you were you wouldn't be what you are....

 

The lack of tuition would make the perceived value of going to St X less. Keep in mind that there academically equitable (or arguably superior) options in the public school sector already. The truth, whether you want to believe it or not is that the tuition "keeps out" the inherent problems that come with students from lower socio-economic areas. These problems often show themselves in disruptive disciplinary activities, even in those kids that are very academically gifted. The influx and increase of disciplinary problems would quickly lead to a reaction by parents in finding "safer" more "disciplined" options for school.

 

In other words you would inherit the same problems public schools have, those very same problems that make parents choose to send there kids to private schools.

 

LOL......Seriously, do you think that being free that your average joe would get in?????????????

 

 

NO you can bet that you better have something to offer to the the school, nothing is free in this world. If you can play (fill in the blank) you will get in. If you can score a 34 on the ACT you would get in.

 

If on the the other hand you had a minor run in with the law as a juvenile, or were only an average student with nothing to offer to the school, you would be out in the cold or some other public (free) school. It would still be elitist and even more so since they could pick at choose depending on the needs of the school (sports).

LOL......Seriously, do you think that being free that your average joe would get in?????????????

 

 

NO you can bet that you better have something to offer to the the school, nothing is free in this world. If you can play (fill in the blank) you will get in. If you can score a 34 on the ACT you would get in.

 

If on the the other hand you had a minor run in with the law as a juvenile, or were only an average student with nothing to offer to the school, you would be out in the cold or some other public (free) school. It would still be elitist and even more so since they could pick at choose depending on the needs of the school (sports).

 

You must have no experience dealing with admissions at most Private Schools in KY.

LOL......Seriously, do you think that being free that your average joe would get in?????????????

 

 

NO you can bet that you better have something to offer to the the school, nothing is free in this world. If you can play (fill in the blank) you will get in. If you can score a 34 on the ACT you would get in.

 

If on the the other hand you had a minor run in with the law as a juvenile, or were only an average student with nothing to offer to the school, you would be out in the cold or some other public (free) school. It would still be elitist and even more so since they could pick at choose depending on the needs of the school (sports).

 

In other words it would be just like oh I don't know, Manual (a free public school).

NO you can bet that you better have something to offer to the the school, nothing is free in this world. If you can play (fill in the blank) you will get in. If you can score a 34 on the ACT you would get in.

If on the the other hand you had a minor run in with the law as a juvenile, or were only an average student with nothing to offer to the school, you would be out in the cold or some other public (free) school. It would still be elitist and even more so since they could pick at choose depending on the needs of the school (sports).

Here is the point. There are many gifted, smart, and athletic kids from low income areas. Don't assume because a kid is from a poor end of town that they have nothing to offer. The issue is that also tend to bring, in spite of there talents, issues from home.

The other part of that is that many families who send there kids to St X do so in part to get away from a lot of that stuff, now that "those" kids would be attending St X, many who normally send there kids to St X will start heading to Trinity, KCD, Collegiate, or CAL. St X would no longer resemble St X if it were a free institution.

RRR, X's policy for admittance currently is any student attending a Catholic grade school is automatically admitted, then preference is given to legacies and then if there is space available, students with no prior connections to the school are admitted, largely upon the placement exam (I know a former all-state Ram that took the placement exam but was not allowed in because of his score). If X were free, it would allow that many more Catholic grade school families the opportunity to attend, who would not have been able to previously due to the tuition. Even if some additional students with discipline problems were admitted, I seriously doubt you'd have issues once in the school. If a student acted up, it would be like it is currently, the student would be removed if they didn't clean up their act.

If you weren't what you were you wouldn't be what you are....

 

The lack of tuition would make the perceived value of going to St X less. Keep in mind that there academically equitable (or arguably superior) options in the public school sector already. The truth, whether you want to believe it or not is that the tuition "keeps out" the inherent problems that come with students from lower socio-economic areas. These problems often show themselves in disruptive disciplinary activities, even in those kids that are very academically gifted. The influx and increase of disciplinary problems would quickly lead to a reaction by parents in finding "safer" more "disciplined" options for school.

 

In other words you would inherit the same problems public schools have, those very same problems that make parents choose to send there kids to private schools.

 

 

Not true on the above bolded. My freshman year at X, tuition was $970, minus a $200 schollie. No I wasn't an athlete. So my cost was $770, which was only $770 more than public schools. That was just as valuable to me as my kids education, I'm paying $700 per month vs per year back then, and her education ost $8,400 more than public schools. The same value is there for both of us. Money has nothing to do with the quality of a Catholic education, other than you have to spend $$$ to get one.

LOL......Seriously, do you think that being free that your average joe would get in?????????????

 

 

NO you can bet that you better have something to offer to the the school, nothing is free in this world. If you can play (fill in the blank) you will get in. If you can score a 34 on the ACT you would get in.

 

If on the the other hand you had a minor run in with the law as a juvenile, or were only an average student with nothing to offer to the school, you would be out in the cold or some other public (free) school. It would still be elitist and even more so since they could pick at choose depending on the needs of the school (sports).

 

This can't be true because I had several run ins with the law in 8th grade, I was a punk, and I still got in. I was jugged 27 times my first two years (then I got it) ad had zero my last two years. Thank you St X.

This can't be true because I had several run ins with the law in 8th grade, I was a punk, and I still got in. I was jugged 27 times my first two years (then I got it) ad had zero my last two years. Thank you St X.

 

And in that day and age I bet when you got jugged they used a real jug upside your head.

 

Seriously though there was a little healthy fear of teachers when I was in school that does not exist now much to the detrement of education IMVHO. I went to a parocial grade school and was very well aquainted with Sister Agony's ruler of pain. I did learn to keep my smart mouth shut, so I am grateful for that.

Not true on the above bolded. My freshman year at X, tuition was $970, minus a $200 schollie. No I wasn't an athlete. So my cost was $770, which was only $770 more than public schools. That was just as valuable to me as my kids education, I'm paying $700 per month vs per year back then, and her education ost $8,400 more than public schools. The same value is there for both of us. Money has nothing to do with the quality of a Catholic education, other than you have to spend $$$ to get one.

Perceived value. And to be viewed in relation to the other options present.

Glad to provide some entertainment for you, so you can take a break from crowing about the inequalities faced by the so-called "rural schools"!!

 

As long as the state sactioning body and their members chose to classify sports, then I agree anyone winning one of those championships has every right to be quite proud and declare themselves "State Champions"!! And for that matter, in KY I feel any one of the small schools winning the All "A" Classic in thier given sport has every right to declare the same (being the champion of 16 regions and a field of 120 vs. about 35-40 in football is enough for me)!!

 

My main problem is with those who chose to try to gain success on the field of play by continually banning the more successful of their peers, until hopefully they pare the field enough to find success themselves?? Anyone who thinks these "ban the privates" supporters will stop there are just kidding themselves. Once they accomplish that goal, then it will be "ban the independents" such as Highlands and Beechwood; then "ban the open enrollment schools", or even "ban the non-rural schools"??

 

And for the record, I think 6 classes in football for a state with about 230 schools playing the game is absurd!!

 

So, if the state sanctioning body chose to divide KY athletics into two groups, let's call them, Private division and public division, you would and I quote, "As long as the state sactioning body and their members chose to classify sports, then I agree anyone winning one of those championships has every right to be quite proud and declare themselves "State Champions"!!

 

And for the record, I am already on record of saying this is NOT simply a private/public issue but rather an open and closed enrollment issue.

And for the record, I am already on record of saying this is NOT simply a private/public issue but rather an open and closed enrollment issue.

 

If that is the issue then the schools that choose to be closed need to start their own governing body if they so choose and leave everyone else playing by the rules alone.

 

Remember, you can't self impose restrictions on your own school district and then complain that others won't do the same. The practice is not only stupid but it is un-american.