That's fine if the Oranges have some input into what those rules should be. When a group of Apples gets together and decides to exclude the Oranges from the fruit basket without any input from the Oranges, that is WRONG.

 

Are you saying the oranges didn't get to vote on Prop 20? Or give an argument on why people should not vote for Prop 20?

Are you saying the oranges didn't get to vote on Prop 20? Or give an argument on why people should not vote for Prop 20?

 

This isn't prop 20. There is no oversight from the Board of Control, BOE, or any other body to look at issues other than the pure bias of one group. Besides, wasn't Prop 20 shot down? Are there any private school administrators that had input at these proceedings? What next, a mandate from public superintendents that athletes from private schools have to participate with one hand tied behind their back and with their coaches blindfolded?

If you throw out Fayette and Pulaski Counties this is a non-issue. These two counties have an increase or planned increase in non-public schools. Regardless of fair or unfair recruiting this will weaken the pool of atheletes that the public schools have or have had. Hence there is thrashing by these two public school systems as the public-private equilibrium is modified. In Fayette this will not happen until the heartbearn of the Franklin County BB girls is over (not that that represented any unfair or illegal finding) and after LCA finishes its rise in power. In Pulaski County it appears that the Superintendent of the Year is attempting to snuff out a Christian School before it gets going.

 

The Christian School in Somerset is not even a member of KHSAA--why do they need snuffing?

The Christian School in Somerset is not even a member of KHSAA--why do they need snuffing?

 

Because they may draw potential students from Somerset. That's the whole reason that Sears was so vocal behind this IMVHO. Someone from Somerset mentioned that Somerset independent schools RELY on a certain number of tuition paying students every year. If that's the case then even a small challange to their enrollment could be disasterous for them. Sears did everything in his power to make private schools as unattractive an option as possible.

The goal/action/expections is to allow a playing field were apples will play against apples, oranges will play against oranges. Apples and Oranges will not play together.

 

Allow the both groups to play with their own group:thumb: much like the apples can choose their own curriculum and the oranges have their own curriculum. Each is by a set of rules that clearly defines who are the apples and who are the oranges.

 

I am once more glad to see that the line is so clearly drawn, either you are an apple or an orange. Now what I would have an issue with is if a person could not choose to be an apple or an orange. Then I would go nuts!

 

There are benefits of being an apple. There are benefits of being an orange. There are disadvantages of being an apple. There are disadvantages of being an orange. Now the lines to the adavantages and disadvantages should be clear.

 

Now we can agree and disagree about the oranges and apples on the advantages and disadvantages and as some has done on this thread, call eachother names, but as one of my favorite quotes go "can't we all just get along"! This thread and issue is nothing more and nothing less than choice.

 

I guess the bananas and grapes (rural and urban) are the next fruit cocktail we will see. Then their can be the big schools and small schools, open enrollment and closed enrollment, and etc., etc.. Where does it end?

The Christian School in Somerset is not even a member of KHSAA--why do they need snuffing?

 

What All Tell said. Dead on.

The Christian School in Somerset is not even a member of KHSAA--why do they need snuffing?

 

To make sure that they don't get bigger and then join the KHSAA I would think. In my opinion, Mr. Sears concern about private schools isn't due to athletics. Sure, that's what his focus seems to be on, but I really think he is generally alarmed about the growth of private schools in Ky and the adverse effect that they have on public schools, both financially and otherwise. There is zero that he can do to legally stop the formation and growth of privates schools and he knows it. But if he can make them unattractive to kids, by hurting their athletic programs, he can hurt their enrollment numbers and either stymie their growth or maybe cause them to go out of business entirely.

This isn't prop 20. There is no oversight from the Board of Control, BOE, or any other body to look at issues other than the pure bias of one group. Besides, wasn't Prop 20 shot down? Are there any private school administrators that had input at these proceedings? What next, a mandate from public superintendents that athletes from private schools have to participate with one hand tied behind their back and with their coaches blindfolded?

 

So, public schools should consult with private schools before they decide to schedule games? I am not following where your indignation is coming from.

So, public schools should consult with private schools before they decide to schedule games? I am not following where your indignation is coming from.

 

I'm not saying that at all. The public schools should still have the choice of scheduling private schools, and vice versa. The schools should be able to schedule games with whoever they choose without someone saying they can't schedule a team simply because the make-up of the opponent may be a little different.

I'm not saying that at all. The public schools should still have the choice of scheduling private schools, and vice versa. The schools should be able to schedule games with whoever they choose without someone saying they can't schedule a team simply because the make-up of the opponent may be a little different.

 

Public schools have the "choice" to join the boycott or not, correct? So, they have the "choice" to schedule whomever they want, correct?

 

And the make-up of the opponent has EVERYTHING TO DO with whom you choose to schedule or not.

 

Some you choose because they are a district rival.

Some you choose because they are a border rival.

Some you choose because they are a win and a game that emotionally, you don't have to be at the very peak of your game.

Some you choose because they are a regional foe you may see in the regional tournament.

Some you choose because you are friends with their coach.

Some you choose not to play because you despise their coach.

Some you choose not to play because you can't stand their fanbase.

Some you choose to play because of the environment of the game.

 

Yeah, make-up has everything to do with an opponent.

Public schools have the "choice" to join the boycott or not, correct? So, they have the "choice" to schedule whomever they want, correct?

 

And the make-up of the opponent has EVERYTHING TO DO with whom you choose to schedule or not.

 

I may be mistaken, but I thought the superintendents were trying to remove that choice by mandating who the public schools could schedule. I have no problem with a school making out a schedule on an individual basis for whatever reasons they have. I just have a problem with it being mandated by a group that doesn't include those it affects the most.

I may be mistaken, but I thought the superintendents were trying to remove that choice by mandating who the public schools could schedule. I have no problem with a school making out a schedule on an individual basis for whatever reasons they have. I just have a problem with it being mandated by a group that doesn't include those it affects the most.

 

KASS has no authority to force other districts to do something. They can make a public stand on the issue but then it would be up to each individual district to choose to participate in the boycott or not.

 

As shown on here, some on here have chosen to participate. Some have chosen not to participate.

 

Just what you said you wished they had.

KASS has no authority to force other districts to do something. They can make a public stand on the issue but then it would be up to each individual district to choose to participate in the boycott or not.

 

As shown on here, some on here have chosen to participate. Some have chosen not to participate.

 

Just what you said you wished they had.

 

Good enough.

KASS has no authority to force other districts to do something. They can make a public stand on the issue but then it would be up to each individual district to choose to participate in the boycott or not.

 

As shown on here, some on here have chosen to participate. Some have chosen not to participate.

 

Just what you said you wished they had.

 

Bingo. You hit the nail on the head.

 

From what I was told, the genesis of the KASS action was 1. the desire to go after schools that cheated and go after the adults at those schools that cheated; and 2. their disappointment with what they thought was to light of treatment towards Lex Cath and LCA. That part I have zero problem with. But what really disappointed me in the press release that the KASS sent out was that it didn't say the supers should not boycott the non public schools that aren't cheating and it didn't say that the supers should boycott the public schools that are cheating. Not all non public schools cheat and not all public schools are saints. Let's go after the schools and adults that cheat and leave the rest alone.

Bingo. You hit the nail on the head.

 

From what I was told, the genesis of the KASS action was 1. the desire to go after schools that cheated and go after the adults at those schools that cheated; and 2. their disappointment with what they thought was to light of treatment towards Lex Cath and LCA. That part I have zero problem with. But what really disappointed me in the press release that the KASS sent out was that it didn't say the supers should not boycott the non public schools that aren't cheating and it didn't say that the supers should boycott the public schools that are cheating. Not all non public schools cheat and not all public schools are saints. Let's go after the schools and adults that cheat and leave the rest alone.

Exactly. "Right versus Wrong", not "Public versus Private".