October 23, 200718 yr Author You might find yourself doing quite a bit of "defending" there. Could be worse, he could be defending you.
October 23, 200718 yr But that's not the person I'm talking about. I'm talking about the (much more common) garden variety hot head with anger issues. People can sometimes do things in the heat of the moment they might otherwise not even think they were capable of. And, IMO, that person would still be a 'garden variety hot head' without a gun...
October 23, 200718 yr A person on campus with a gun also makes campus police very nervous. I agree. However, if someone is crazy enough to get in a shootout with police, do you think they are going to not bring a gun because the rules say they can't have one?
October 23, 200718 yr Bottom line: Someone comes into my classroom with a gun, presently, good chance everyone in my classroom dies. Someone comes into my classroom and I am armed, good chance I can take him down before everyone of us dies. I hate to have to even consider it, but it is a consideration. When do you shoot, when you feel that there's a danger? When is that? When a stranger enters your classroom? When he pulls out a weapon? After he shoots you? (You're probably going to be his first target if he's a student and knows you're packing.) What if you make a mistake and shoot a person who was not a threat?
October 23, 200718 yr How would you feel about teachers with conceal carry?They probably already do. And you went to Catholic school. You know how deadly those rulers can be.
October 23, 200718 yr And, IMO, that person would still be a 'garden variety hot head' without a gun...And nobody would have to die for it.
October 23, 200718 yr And nobody would have to die for it. Could still happen... Yet because of this, 33 people will die at VT, at one time...
October 23, 200718 yr When do you shoot, when you feel that there's a danger? When is that? When a stranger enters your classroom? When he pulls out a weapon? After he shoots you? (You're probably going to be his first target if he's a student and knows you're packing.) What if you make a mistake and shoot a person who was not a threat? I cannot or could not answer that question till I would receive proper training on it. I would assume that, at minimum, rules/training that applies to police officers would need to be in place before teachers would be allowed to have concealed firearms. And I probably will be one of the first targets whether I have a gun or not. Unfortunately, that is what has become of the profession I chose.
October 24, 200718 yr Author When do you shoot, when you feel that there's a danger? When is that? When a stranger enters your classroom? When he pulls out a weapon? After he shoots you? (You're probably going to be his first target if he's a student and knows you're packing.) What if you make a mistake and shoot a person who was not a threat?Your way it wouldn't matter, everyone in the room are sitting ducks.
October 24, 200718 yr When do you shoot, when you feel that there's a danger? When is that? When a stranger enters your classroom? When he pulls out a weapon? After he shoots you? (You're probably going to be his first target if he's a student and knows you're packing.) What if you make a mistake and shoot a person who was not a threat? With proper training, you would know when to shoot. You all that are against people carrying on a campus think that every who would is just some high strung trigger happy fool. I am sure there are some of those out there, however...I am in favor. If you think for one minute that I couldnt take out an individual getting ready to shoot up a classroom before he took out everyone...you are wrong.
October 24, 200718 yr You all that are against people carrying on a campus think that every who would is just some high strung trigger happy fool.No, I think we just understand human nature.
October 24, 200718 yr I think it's kind of like taking medicane.... you have to think of the risk/reward. The chances that fewer people would be killed in the handful of attacks we have had on campus is probably real. The chances that a whole lot more shootings would probably happen on campus is probably real too. I understand the protest but I think no guns is the lesser of two evils.
October 24, 200718 yr No, I think we just understand human nature. Interesting. I watch the news on a fairly regular basis. Havent seen any of those stories lately! Seems to me the people who end up shooting up the place are the ones that are carrying illegally anyway. This is why gun laws are ridiculous. The only people they hurt are the law abiding citizens. Do you really think someone who uses a weapon for a crime decides that he will go through all of the red tape to get a weapon legally? Not a chance...so the person like me who does go through all of the training, purchases legally, and carries legally is the one that has to suffer.
October 24, 200718 yr found these listed on a "gun control" website. a.. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject. b.. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone. c.. Remington & Winchester: The original point and click interface. d.. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. e.. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords? f.. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words. g.. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms. h.. If you don't know your rights you don't have any. i.. Those who trade liberty for security have neither. j.. The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved. k.. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand? l.. The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others. m.. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday. n.. Guns only have two enemies: Rust and Politicians. o.. Know guns, know peace and safety. No guns, no peace nor safety. p.. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive. q.. 911 - government sponsored Dial a Prayer. r.. Assault is a behavior, not a device. s.. Criminals love gun control - it makes their jobs safer. t.. If Guns cause Crime, then Matches cause Arson. u.. Only a government that is afraid of it's citizens try to control them. v.. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for. w.. Enforce the "gun control laws" in place, don't make more. x.. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves. y.. The American Revolution would never have happened with Gun Control. z. "...a government by the people, for the people..."
October 24, 200718 yr Bolded is true, but what if you could limit the amount of people they hurt. That would be super.!
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