In Alabama a majority of that money (if not all of it) comes from the boosters, not paid by the school system.

 

Which cannot be done in KY. Good point. :thumb:

How many private schools play against Colerain?

 

Can the private schools get kids from 12 surrounding counties?

 

What other power public schools are there who go against Colerain.

 

Do they play..say Atherton verses X or Iroquois. (I know thats changed just recently)

 

I know of Cincinnati X and Molleler (sp)

 

Has Colerain won the 17 or 18 championships like the Rocks?

 

Does Colerain also dominate soccer also?

 

Does Colerain have stadiums like X/Rocks? And whats Molleler/ Cincinnati X stadiums compared to the Kentucky schools?

 

Do they get kids from Kentucky who live in Kentucky during the season? Indiana?

 

I have more questions....Middle school questions, but I'll wait.

 

Colerain is to Cincinnati, what Holmes could be to NKY. They have a lot of inner city kids who have dedicated themselves to being good. They play a very aggressive, yet disciplined style of D. On O they run the same option package that they've run for 17 years. The main difference b/n Colerain and many of the public schools in KY is the passion that the fan base has for Colerain. Colerain fans travel in droves to every game. That's what makes Colerain a football power. That's what Sears needs to assess when he cries about the privates unfair advantage. What kind of community support do those schools get? Look at Highlands and Beechwood. Rabid fan base. All of the questions that you listed above are going to give you the same answers that you have already heard. They are a crutch, and that's all they are.

Which cannot be done in KY. Good point. :thumb:

 

Oh, it can be.....I know of some for sure instances where boosters have bought coaches automobiles for either taking a job when they first got there, and/or for winning a state championship.

Colerain is to Cincinnati, what Holmes could be to NKY. They have a lot of inner city kids who have dedicated themselves to being good. .

 

That would be a misleading statement.

 

Colerain does not fall into the "inner city" category. There is no "inner city" on Colerain Avenue.

If i'm not mistaken, Hoover is a public school, not private.

 

Colerain is a public school too.

 

The point is, for the most part the large public schools in KY greatly underachieve in football.

How many private schools play against Colerain?

 

Can the private schools get kids from 12 surrounding counties?

 

What other power public schools are there who go against Colerain.

 

Do they play..say Atherton verses X or Iroquois. (I know thats changed just recently)

 

I know of Cincinnati X and Molleler (sp)

 

Has Colerain won the 17 or 18 championships like the Rocks?

 

Does Colerain also dominate soccer also?

 

Does Colerain have stadiums like X/Rocks? And whats Molleler/ Cincinnati X stadiums compared to the Kentucky schools?

 

Do they get kids from Kentucky who live in Kentucky during the season? Indiana?

 

I have more questions....Middle school questions, but I'll wait.

 

AL, we really need to get our Colerain member to respond to all of these questions. I can answer some of them (and I think you would be surprised with the answers) but I can't do all of them justice.

The same grade and academic situations are occuring in the Jefferson County public schools. People in powerful positions are aware and turn their heads. The losers in the end are the young people. Grades are changed, test scores are fabricated. Young people go to college totaly unprepared and fail. They are used.

Oh, it can be.....I know of some for sure instances where boosters have bought coaches automobiles for either taking a job when they first got there, and/or for winning a state championship.

Dale Mueller rides a bike!

Colerain is to Cincinnati, what Holmes could be to NKY. They have a lot of inner city kids who have dedicated themselves to being good. They play a very aggressive, yet disciplined style of D. On O they run the same option package that they've run for 17 years. The main difference b/n Colerain and many of the public schools in KY is the passion that the fan base has for Colerain. Colerain fans travel in droves to every game. That's what makes Colerain a football power. That's what Sears needs to assess when he cries about the privates unfair advantage. What kind of community support do those schools get? Look at Highlands and Beechwood. Rabid fan base. All of the questions that you listed above are going to give you the same answers that you have already heard. They are a crutch, and that's all they are.

Mostly correct, except for everything underlined.

 

Colerain is a school in the northwest suburbs of Cincinnati. We are no where near the inner-city. Holmes is more like an Aiken or Withrow or Taft in the CPSL (Cincinnati Public School League). A comparable school would be Boone Cty. A good mix of socio-economic conditions as well as racial backgrounds.

 

In regards to the Option offense, it has changed drastically over the past two years ('06-'07). Last year, our OC of 15+ years left the Varsity program to help coach the Freshman. Current head coach, Tom Bolden, was promoted to OC in 2006 and with a QB (Doug Reynolds) that had the measurables to throw the ball, opened up the offense just a bit. This year, the offense has opened up considerably more. We run out of the traditional 2 wingback Triple Option, the stacked I-formation, and even a little shotgun spread. :jump: Pretty tough to game plan for.

 

-CardinalsFan

Mostly correct, except for everything underlined.

 

Colerain is a school in the northwest suburbs of Cincinnati. We are no where near the inner-city. Holmes is more like an Aiken or Withrow or Taft in the CPSL (Cincinnati Public School League). A comparable school would be Boone Cty. A good mix of socio-economic conditions as well as racial backgrounds.

 

In regards to the Option offense, it has changed drastically over the past two years ('06-'07). Last year, our OC of 15+ years left the Varsity program to help coach the Freshman. Current head coach, Tom Bolden, was promoted to OC in 2006 and with a QB (Doug Reynolds) that had the measurables to throw the ball, opened up the offense just a bit. This year, the offense has opened up considerably more. We run out of the traditional 2 wingback Triple Option, the stacked I-formation, and even a little shotgun spread. :jump: Pretty tough to game plan for.

 

-CardinalsFan

 

I apologize for the false info.

How many private schools play against Colerain?

-->As a general practice, Colerain doesn't play private schools during the regular season. We are in a 10-team conference (all public schools) and have 7 league games. The 3 non-league games are usually eaten up by the Skyline Chili Crosstown Showdown (week 1), the Herbstreit Challenge and some other public school filler. Our run-ins with the Privates happen come playoff time where Colerain has quite an impressive record since the program was "resurrected", so to speak, in the mid-90's.

 

Can the private schools get kids from 12 surrounding counties?

-->The private/parochial schools in Ohio can get kids from anywhere they want. It's not 12 counties but I'm not sure it's the # of counties that matter, moreso, it's the population. One minor difference vs. KY is that in Ohio, if you don't live (a.k.a. have a mailing address) in Ohio, you can't play a sport for your private school. There are many kids who get around this rule and it's quite easy to do so.

 

What other power public schools are there who go against Colerain.

-->In the Cincy area...no one. Colerain is THE power public school in SWO. Colerain is the GMC (Greater Miami Conference) which is the largest and deepest (IMO) for D1 (biggest) schools in all Ohio. The other schools are, Princeton, Sycamore, Mason, Middletown, Fairfield, Lakota West, Lakota East, Hamilton and Oak Hills. In terms of male enrollment only, grades 10-12, the GMC is home to 6 of the top 10 LARGEST schools in all of Ohio (see teams underlined above). Colerain is #22 in the state in that same statistic.

 

In this conference, Colerain has done nothing short of completely dominate. They are currently on a 56 game consecutive winning streak in conference. Their last loss, in conference, was in 1999. No conference opponent has come within 14 points of the Cardinals since 9/12/2003 which was a 3 point Colerain win over Middletown, @ Middletown, 30-27. And that game was 30-20 late in the fourth when the Cards D, playing conservatively, gave up a last second TD and XP on a lengthy drive which was essentially meaningless.

 

Do they play..say Atherton verses X or Iroquois. (I know thats changed just recently)

-->I don't understand this one so I'll assume it's not Colerain related.

 

I know of Cincinnati X and Molleler (sp)

-->I do too. They are both in the GCL South (Greater Catholic league - South meaning D1 schools only) in Cincinnati, the self-proclaimed greatest league in the history of the country, regardless of sport. Forget the fact that they only have 4 teams in the entire league. I digress. :irked:

 

Has Colerain won the 17 or 18 championships like the Rocks?

Absolutely not. We have 1 state championship...2004. And without getting into too much detail, it was such a good team that no one was gong to challenge them. We Colerain fans KNEW after our 2003 season ended, prematurely, that 2004 was ours for the taking.

 

The depth and talent of football in Ohio at a D1 level is significantly better and deeper than KY. If Colerain can get out of the region (a.k.a. make it to the state final four) it is considered a HUGE accomplishment. Plus, Colerain's football prowess is really a recent development (last 15 years). We don't have nearly the history of a Trinity or Highlands.

 

Does Colerain also dominate soccer also?

Absolutely not. Outside of football and girls cross country (4 State Titles), Colerain is average, at best, at every other sport imaginable. For example, our men's basketball team set a record last year (05/06 season) for the worst record in school history (2-19, 0-14 in conference). Last year, we more than doubled our win total...to 5-14.

 

Does Colerain have stadiums like X/Rocks? And whats Molleler/ Cincinnati X stadiums compared to the Kentucky schools?

-->No. Our stadium seats roughly 3,500 to 4,000 people with plenty of room on surrounding hillsides to accomodate 10,000 total. The nicest thing about our stadium is the field turf that was recently installed and completely funded by donations from alumni and corporate sponsors. It was a huge accomplishment for a public school whose alumni pretty much move on after high school and rarely, if ever, think about Colerain after they leave.

 

-->Moeller doesn't have a stadium. They are located in Montgomery on the east side of Cincy and their campus is land-locked with suburbs. They don't have the room to build a stadium and even if they did, their neighbors have routinely shut down any idea of them installing lights for any events at night.

 

St. Xavier, on the other hand, has one of the most beautiful football stadiums I've ever seen. 3 years ago, a capital campaign came to conclusion where they generated roughly $17M to build a whole new facility with TWO all-weather, synthetic turf fields. It also got them a redesigned Pool (they have 27 state championships and over a dozen NATIONAL championships in swimming) and a brand new, state-of-the-art Fine Arts win.

 

Here is a picture of their new stadium during a night game:

 

Do they get kids from Kentucky who live in Kentucky during the season? Indiana?

-->No.

 

I have more questions....Middle school questions, but I'll wait.

-->Ask away. I'm ready. :thumb:

Please see Responses in bold.

 

-CardinalsFan

Colerain is to Cincinnati, what Holmes could be to NKY. They have a lot of inner city kids who have dedicated themselves to being good.

 

Have you ever been to Colerain?

That would be a misleading statement.

 

Colerain does not fall into the "inner city" category. There is no "inner city" on Colerain Avenue.

 

There is but you have to go about 10-12 miles south (from Colerain HIGH School) where Colerain Ave. meets I-74 in Northside.

Thanks CF. I will add a few comments. First on this question:

 

What other power public schools are there who go against Colerain.

 

I agree Colerain is heads above all those other schools but Princeton, Sycamore, and maybe Lakota West would all be top five in KY and probably everyone of them could beat X or T. X or T may beat all of them too but it would be close to even. Furthermore, a couple of other schools in that league are very good.

 

I know of Cincinnati X and Molleler (sp)

 

In addition to X and Moeller you have Elder and LaSalle (who has been recently getting some kids away from Colerain) but Colerain appears to be maintaining their level of play. In other words, in Louisville you have X and T, in Cincy you have four good or great, large private high schools in addition to tons of great public high schools. Put it this way, if T and X played the top ten schools in Cincy every year they would be lucky to be 5 and 5 most years and only 3 or 4 of those games would be against other private high schools. The depth of Cincy large school football is incredible.

 

The bottom line is Ohio is a state that puts a lot of emphasis on football and that is why there are so many good public schools that are every bit as good as their private counterparts. We have the perfect analogy in KY and that is basketball.

 

In addition to X and Moeller you have Elder and LaSalle (who has been recently getting some kids away from Colerain) but Colerain appears to be maintaining their level of play. In other words, in Louisville you have X and T, in Cincy you have four good or great, large private high schools in addition to tons of great public high schools. Put it this way, if T and X played the top ten schools in Cincy every year they would be lucky to be 5 and 5 most years and only 3 or 4 of those games would be against other private high schools. The depth of Cincy large school football is incredible.

 

Well said. This is very true. Ohio has always been a hotbed of football. Cincy in particular. Kentucky is closing that gap slowly, but the bottom line is really one thing. Education. We are slowly closing that gap too. By my estimation we will be equal to Ohio in both aspects in 2059. At least I have realistic expectations.