April 12, 200719 yr So basically you're saying that African-Americans can do whatever they want to discriminate against Whites, based on the fact that 150 years ago our ancestors treated their ancestors inhumane? That is the type of thought that has our country in the racially tense situations we have these days. You cannot cure past injustices and discriminations by discriminating. It causes more bitterness between the two races and only further the unfortunate divide that we see today. I hope for society's sake that not many share that viewpoint. Absolutely not what I'm saying at all... I'm explaining why Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton aren't racist only because they don't attack the minority racists who say ignorant things about caucasions... You think that to African Americans slavery is just "something our ancestors did to their ancestors?' You think AA don't experience racism daily in their life? The reason that there is a problem in society between races is because white people want to say exactly what you're saying. White people screwed up! Caucasions need to be sensitive to this issue and realize that THEY WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND what it is like to be an AA...
April 12, 200719 yr Absolutely not what I'm saying at all... I'm explaining why Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton aren't racist only because they don't attack the minority racists who say ignorant things about caucasions... You think that to African Americans slavery is just "something our ancestors did to their ancestors?' You think AA don't experience racism daily in their life? The reason that there is a problem in society between races is because white people want to say exactly what you're saying. White people screwed up! Caucasions need to be sensitive to this issue and realize that THEY WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND what it is like to be an AA... I know whites screwed up, and will never claim to understand what it's like to be an African-American, but you cannot try to "make up" for what happened. By allowing African-Americans to display the same racist behavior that Whites are held accountable for, is not promoting equality, but rather discrimination and it makes the tension between the races grow. The ideal society that we both can agree is desired, is one where race doesn't matter, and isn't an issue. However by giving different races different standards is only going to make it that much harder for us as a society to reach that goal.
April 12, 200719 yr I KNOW THIS WHITE MAN HAS NO GUILT FOR WHAT HAPPEN WHEN I WAS NOT HERE AND I AM ABOVE LETTING THINGS I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH KEEP ME DOWN.I AM STRONG ENOUGH NOT TO LOOK FOR THE FIRST CRUTCH I CAN TO AID ME IN WHAT I AM GOING AFTER. * AGAIN LET ME SAY VERY LOUDLY I THINK SLAVERY WAS WRONG AND ANYONE WHO OWNED A SLAVE SHOULD SPEND THE AFTER LIFE IN HE^^
April 12, 200719 yr I KNOW THIS WHITE MAN HAS NO GUILT FOR WHAT HAPPEN WHEN I WAS NOT HERE AND I AM ABOVE LETTING THINGS I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH KEEP ME DOWN.I AM STRONG ENOUGH NOT TO LOOK FOR THE FIRST CRUTCH I CAN TO AID ME IN WHAT I AM GOING AFTER. * AGAIN LET ME SAY VERY LOUDLY I THINK SLAVERY WAS WRONG AND ANYONE WHO OWNED A SLAVE SHOULD SPEND THE AFTER LIFE IN HE^^ This is gonna sound crazy, but I wanted to discuss it openly so every one in P&R can understand it. This is the second post today in which NCF has substituted other symbols in the word "hell". Technically, this could be deemed a violation of Rule 8 which states: Any attempt to use or suggest profanity is prohibited. This means you may not use symbols to replace some or all of the letters in a word that might otherwise be blocked by the BGP word filter. The good news is, after lengthy discussion among the moderators, the use of the word "hell" in the proper context as a bad place to spend eternity should be acceptable in a "Religion" forum, whereas, any use of "hell" simply as profanity will not be allowed. Likewise any substitutions in a profane context such as "he^^" "he--" "heIl" etc. would also be considered violations. So bottom line... if you intend to specify "hell" as an actual place within polite conversation, you're good to go. If you intend to use the word in a profane manner, you're out of bounds whether you spell it straight or with substitutions. Does that make sense to everyone?
April 12, 200719 yr I want to know when Sharpton and Jackson are going to be issuing apologies to the Duke lacrosse players whose guilt they proclaimed last year. I won't hold my breath
April 12, 200719 yr I want to know when Sharpton and Jackson are going to be issuing apologies to the Duke lacrosse players whose guilt they proclaimed last year. I won't hold my breath That's because they would have to be admitting they were wrong, which is one thing you will never see those two morons do...
April 12, 200719 yr Those that like these two racists would be devastated to see their leaders admit to being wrong.
April 12, 200719 yr Your right slavery isn't a black/white thing. However, slavery in this country has and always will be a black/white thing. The Africans did what they needed to do in order to survive, they needed the products that selling the slaves brought them. However, in the USA, rich, racist, white folks tried to keep an entire race down by making the Africans slaves. Slavery had nothing to do with necessity, debts, or capture in the USA, it had all to do with race and superiority. So I guess if I follow your line of thinking then if I sould happen to get in a bad financial way, then I guess that it's all OK for me to sell my young children out so they could be used in a sweat house somewhere because GMAC is coming to get my Tahoe , or it's OK for me to sell my wife so I can make my house payments cause the bank's going to put me out on the street. Hey perhaps I could still get a few bucks out of gradma, she still has a few years of cooking and cleaning left in her, maybe I could pay off those credit card debts. Hey, I really need these products!!! This all sounds ridiculous doesn't it? It sure does, but it doesn't sound anymore ridiculous than the statement that you are making. As was said, if slavery is something that you are going to blame on todays generation of whites for etenity then I can only say then there is something more deeply rooted in your soul then trying to remember that there is not the first person still living in the United States that can be directly blamed for anything that happened 150 years ago. I forgave those Roman soldiers a long time ago for doing what they did to my ancestors. I know my anology may sound ridiculous , but still it is the very same thing. It's not going to get the attention and sink into the thought processes of many because it happened so long ago, but it is still the very same thing. Could it also be that since it is a white/white situation that no body cares? You know, I even LIKED Rick Pitino. lol I wonder how many blacks in this country still have relatives in Africa that are being held in bondage by their own race ,since slavery is still prevelant in many African countries today. Maybe it would be more worthwhile to gain world attention to help end this cruelty than it is to keep harping on something that ended in this country 150 years ago and to keep condeming people that had absolutely nothing to do with those past events. Wouldn't that make more sense and do a lot more good? Maybe if this country was void of more Merlene Davis's, Al Sharptons, Jesse Jacksons, etc., who have to constantly keep throwings the race card on everything that happens then maybe we could all get along better. I cant change what happened 200 years ago, any more than what any other Italian can change what happened 2,000 years ago, or can any of German heritage change what the Nazi's did as recently as 65 years ago. The fact is, we are all taught that we are to forgive, and to forgive, and to continue to forgive for our trangressions, just as we ask for ourselves to be forgiven.
April 12, 200719 yr The double standard that allows racists blacks to spew their venom is only one of the many reasons that we will not see racial harmony in our or our children's lifetimes. We are generations away, it at all. As for myself, I have long forgiven the discrimination that was shown to my ancestors from Italy and Ireland upon their arrival in this country. But then, I'm a big man.
April 12, 200719 yr The last thing that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson want is racial harmony. Racial Harmony would put an end to their lucrative positions as the self-appointed leaders/shake down artists of the black community.
April 12, 200719 yr The last thing that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson want is racial harmony. Racial Harmony would put an end to their lucrative positions as the self-appointed leaders/shake down artists of the black community. At this point in time, who is keeping the racial rift open? Blacks or whites? How do we fix the rift? Don't bother answering if you can't post a well thought out non-racist remark.
April 12, 200719 yr Al Sharpton was on with Meredith Viera this morning and called out the music industry. He talked about his group having meetings with people in the music industry. He complained about those in the decision making positions of music industry are not even African-Americans. He said that the music industry must change and start giving positive messages. That there are artists out there with positive messages but the music industry sees cheap bucks with the crap they are putting out there now and won't make any changes.
April 12, 200719 yr The last thing that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson want is racial harmony. Racial Harmony would put an end to their lucrative positions as the self-appointed leaders/shake down artists of the black community. At this point in their life, I disagree to an extent. I think they are getting to the age, that they would love to have a spot in history as MLK does. A person that made a real change instead of what you imply.
April 12, 200719 yr At this point in time, who is keeping the racial rift open? Blacks or whites? How do we fix the rift? Don't bother answering if you can't post a well thought out non-racist remark. The extreme hatred on each side and the idiots like Imus in between that keep sticking their foot in their mouth by thinking they are funny or making some sort of deep societal comment.
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