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Tubby nabs a 2008 recruit.

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...Hayes was a beast as a freshman, and a beast as a senior...

 

Hayes as a freshman:

5.87 pts/game

4.46 rebs/game

1.0 asst/game

46.5% shooting

Yeah, those are monster numbers.

 

Hayes as a senior:

10.91 pts/game

7.73 rebs/game

2.26 asst/game

50.9% shooting

I would say Hayes improved from a freshman to a senior.

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^ No need for facts when you have an opinion... ;)

Hayes as a freshman:

5.87 pts/game

4.46 rebs/game

1.0 asst/game

46.5% shooting

Yeah, those are monster numbers.

 

Hayes as a senior:

10.91 pts/game

7.73 rebs/game

2.26 asst/game

50.9% shooting

I would say Hayes improved from a freshman to a senior.

 

I do not think numbers fully show his growing contributions to the team, especially his senior season.

I do not think numbers fully show his growing contributions to the team, especially his senior season.

 

:thumb:

Chuck will always be one of my favorite Wildcats. Seeing his emotion walking off the court against Michigan State in 05 killed me. Also another reason I really like Tom Izzo. That was class in every sense of the word.

Really....Crawfords FG and 3pt % have both gone up EVERY year he has been here so far. Thats just with 2 minutes of research.

 

 

The fact that TUBBY pulled him everytime (and with Crawford that's about every other shot) he took a bad shot probably had something to do with that.

The fact that TUBBY pulled him everytime (and with Crawford that's about every other shot) he took a bad shot probably had something to do with that.

 

 

Then how come his attempts have went up each and every season???

Hayes as a freshman:

5.87 pts/game

4.46 rebs/game

1.0 asst/game

46.5% shooting

Yeah, those are monster numbers.

 

Hayes as a senior:

10.91 pts/game

7.73 rebs/game

2.26 asst/game

50.9% shooting

I would say Hayes improved from a freshman to a senior.

 

 

How about minutes????????????????????????????? Per minute I would WAGER that the numbers were better his freshman year.

^ No need for facts when you have an opinion... ;)

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cloud the issue with facts. :D

Hayes as a freshman:

5.87 pts/game

4.46 rebs/game

1.0 asst/game

46.5% shooting

Yeah, those are monster numbers.

 

Hayes as a senior:

10.91 pts/game

7.73 rebs/game

2.26 asst/game

50.9% shooting

I would say Hayes improved from a freshman to a senior.

Not to mention he would have been undersized. Remember when everyone thought that UK could not be successful with Hayes/Daniels at the post?

Then how come his attempts have went up each and every season???

 

 

He was afraid Crawford would quit. He walked off campus and when he came back Tubby played him more. I was refering to Crawford as freshman.

I do not think numbers fully show his growing contributions to the team, especially his senior season.

I totally agree. But the numbers do show that Hayes improved greatly from Freshman to Senior year. Also when he was a senior teams game planned for him.

It is impossible to please some UK fans.

He was afraid Crawford would quit. He walked off campus and when he came back Tubby played him more. I was refering to Crawford as freshman.

 

 

It's amazing how you know exactly what both Tubby and Crawford think. Crawford has improved since his freshman season, anyone who can't see that is clueless.

It would seem IAm was recently placed on the TBers email list for talking points. We get that you're upset IAm, but you're no longer being rational and sounding quite foolish...

 

 

The bold..... Yes I'm a recent member. He needs to go. As far as players getting better though.....that's not foolish. There have been numerous players who have basically stayed the same over their UK careers. Shag, Woo, Thomas, Perry, Rondo, Carruth, Azebuike, Morris, Hayes, Fitch, Bogans, Prince. Sure numbers get better with age, but it's virtually impossible for 18 year olds to get worse playing that much. There is a problem with player development. Guys aren't improving like they should at UK. Granted that is my opinion, but it's based on facts. No "experiments" have worked.

It's amazing how you know exactly what both Tubby and Crawford think. Crawford has improved since his freshman season, anyone who can't see that is clueless.

 

 

That turnover at the end of the Tennessee game was vast improvement. Along with the 2 points he scored the first 30 minutes of the game. He plays and shoots more and is a main focus of the offense. His underachievement is a BIG reason UK isn't very good---- Do you dispute that?

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