2 hours ago, wingt51 said:

At what point is there a discussion about moving them up? They win 7? 8? in a row? Going back to 2012(!!!!!!!) they've lost to 3 teams currently in 3A (Desales/Mercer/Central). All three of those teams spent some time in 4A recently too.

If Boyle County doesn't get upset by Covington Catholic last year in the quarterfinals, would we be having the same conversation about them?

7 minutes ago, Unrivaled97 said:

If Boyle County doesn't get upset by Covington Catholic last year in the quarterfinals, would we be having the same conversation about them?

Boyle has lost to 9 teams in 4A or lower in the same time period, plus 2 teams below them in 6A in N Hardin and Lafayette. One of those teams was Lex Cath who they lost to several times. Don't be disingenuous in comparing the two just because you're a CAL guy. 

40 minutes ago, Unrivaled97 said:

I think to a certain degree, this is a very fair assessment.  No, Trinity does not need further validation.  30 state titles and even success on a national stage speaks for itself.  However, I think there are a couple of points that need addressed:  

First, if Trinity beats CAL by a little or by a lot, I don't think you'd have many critics saying of course why play CAL or what's wrong with Trinity.  CAL is widely viewed by many to be the second-best team in the state of KY so beating them, in many aspects, would be viewed as being a better win than St. X or Male currently is.  Just because a team in 3 classes lower doesn't make them any less of a formidable opponent for Trinity.  Boyle County went up to Cleveland and knocked off the multiple time, defending Division 1 state champs in Ohio last year and Boyle County is only 1 class above CAL in 4A.  Would it be the same sentiment if Trinity played Boyle County?

Second, "Playing top tier schools in other states, any of which would be seen year in and year out as a top 5 ranked team in Kentucky 6A. The type teams that cause the Rocks to face top talent, top coaching and O line and D lines that are big, fast and physical. Even though those games are not helpful for RPI purposes, they are extremely helpful more many other reasons. "   If you don't think this applies to CAL, you are sadly mistaken.  CAL would widely been seen as a top 5 ranked team in Kentucky 6A.  They have top talent, top coaching and have OL & DL that are fast and physical, as well as having some size.  People need to stop thinking that just simply b/c teams play 6A football, it automatically makes them better.  It doesn't.  All it means is they have a bigger pool of kids to pick from typically not necessarily a better pool.  I've said that top talent vs. top talent, CAL goes toe-to-toe with Trinity, at least in recent years.  Where Trinity would prevail over CAL is depth or numbers.  CAL has 50-55 kids in their program.  Trinity has 25 more than that in their Freshman class alone.

The real problem with why Trinity won't schedule CAL is Trinity does have everything to lose and they do know that it is a possibility they lose that game to CAL.  Sure, they probably win 80% of the time if the teams played, but Trinity very well knows that CAL is one of the few teams in Kentucky that can beat them.  Fifteen years ago, we wouldn't even be talking about this.  But now, CAL is widely seen as a great alternative for a private school education with top tier athletics in the Louisville area.  For now, Trinity can go on talking about 30 state titles, beating St. X consistently, the tough scheduling, etc., all of which is true and quite impressive.  But maybe, just maybe, if you schedule CAL and the small chance they do beat Trinity, you couldn't even talk about being the current best in your own city, let alone your own state.  Well, that's a risk that is simply too big to take even if the chances of CAL winning the game are slim.  It doesn't mean Trinity is scared or anything of the sort.  Trinity is not scared to play anyone, in their own state or otherwise.  It simply means the risk isn't worth the reward.

This all comes down to one thing. When players choose to enroll at CAL instead of Trinity, then and only then is there a reason for Trinity to schedule CAL. Has that happened?

10 minutes ago, wingt51 said:

Boyle has lost to 9 teams in 4A or lower in the same time period, plus 2 teams below them in 6A in N Hardin and Lafayette. One of those teams was Lex Cath who they lost to several times. Don't be disingenuous in comparing the two just because you're a CAL guy. 

I'm not being disingenuous at all.  It's an honest and sincere question.  The first part of your statement said when do we talk about moving CAL up; when they reach 7 or 8 in a row so obviously we're more concerned with how many state titles and not just regular season wins.  If Boyle County, the team many considered to be the best team in the state last year, doesn't lose to Covington Catholic last year in the quarterfinals, then we're currently talking about them winning 6 titles in a row in 4A.  The question still remains....would we be having the same conversation about them?  Since 2012, CAL has lost to many teams, even some that are below class 3A (LCA three times, Newport Central Catholic and Mayfield).

4 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

This all comes down to one thing. When players choose to enroll at CAL instead of Trinity, then and only then is there a reason for Trinity to schedule CAL. Has that happened?

As of recent, yes it has.

On 1/11/2026 at 2:57 PM, TH58 said:

No. Put yourself in Trinity’s shoes. They are viewed at the very top of KHSAA football. 30 state championships. By playing a lower class team, 3 classes lower, based in their own town, Trinity has nothing to gain and everything to lose. Win by a ton and the critics say “of course, why play CAL”. Win by a few and the critics say “wow, what is wrong with Trinity”. Lose and it is seen as a big blow to Trinity and a big gain for CAL, when both schools are competing for enrollment in the same town. There is simply too much to lose and too little to gain. Trinity needs no more validation and does not yearn for a stronger reputation of high school football excellence. Maybe CAL feels those needs. 
 

And, the Trinity schedule is already widely viewed as the most competitive in the state. Playing top tier schools in other states, any of which would be seen year in and year out as a top 5 ranked team in Kentucky 6A. The type teams that cause the Rocks to face top talent, top coaching and O line and D lines that are big, fast and physical. Even though those games are not helpful for RPI purposes, they are extremely helpful more many other reasons. 

If I was scheduling for Trinity, a game with CAL would not happen and both teams would continue to have success on different paths.

 

I feel like when you reach the level of Trinity, it would seem that any rising challenger would be welcome, if for nothing else, than to give your players the satisfaction of planting your flag on the field rather than in statistics and projections.

Trinity is far from invincible in Louisville. Look no further than the last decade against Male. The Rocks are 7-7 against the Bulldogs over those 10 years. 

This seems like a rationalized way of saying, "We don't really welcome all-comers."

I think Trinity's annual schedule is proof enough that they fear no one.

Bump.

I look at this way.....

Trinity already plays a top level team each week for the most part.  There are a couple of teams that you can consider a lesser opponent. Those are usually district games.  If CAL wants to step up and schedule T then why don't they pick up a quality OOS opponent? Play Moeller, Carmel, CincySTX, then MALE or X? Why does the big addition for them or their fans need to be Trinity? There are plenty of ways to step up your schedule without just adding T. Why not show some initiative and schedule the type of opponents to show they are ready for T? Why would Trinity play those teams, and let CAL sit around and wait on the big bad wolf to show up while playing lesser opponents.  Show the state you are ready to play that schedule.  OR you could do like MALE has done in that period they had some success and ALWAYS take their bye week prior to Trinity week.  

IF you are a 3A team you probably need to earn the right to fight heavy weight champ who has been doing longer than you been around.

AND for the record, Manual, a second round loser for the better part of the last two decades, ain't it. 

Trinity is trying to increase National presence, CAL does nothing to assist in that.  Trinity beats CAL by 2+ TDs 10 out of 10 times.  CAL is great at what they do, but not on same level.

On 1/10/2026 at 10:47 PM, VF111 said:

I respect the BG and Owensboro games on CAL's 2025 and 2026 schedules, but if we don't see X or T in 2027/28, it's gonna be pretty disappointing. 

I respect the Ryle games even more:

Sep 15, 2023 Christian Academy-Louisville 34 Ryle 22    
Sep 20, 2024 Ryle 28 Christian Academy-Louisville 24    
Sep 12, 2025 Christian Academy-Louisville 34 Ryle 27    

 

Great to see Micah pick up his 1st D1 FBS offer!  Fantastic, respectful young man with a great work ethic.

I don’t think they necessarily need to schedule Trinity but schedule Boyle, Highlands, Cov Catholic, South Warren teams like that I think those games would be interesting.

30 minutes ago, Tkinslow said:

I don’t think they necessarily need to schedule Trinity but schedule Boyle, Highlands, Cov Catholic, South Warren teams like that I think those games would be interesting.

I think CAL has a solid schedule and I assume it will all change after this year if they are forced up in class. 

2 minutes ago, theguru said:

I think CAL has a solid schedule and I assume it will all change after this year if they are forced up in class. 

It will most certainly change.  I think you'll see LCA stay on the schedule since they'll probably be moving up a class as well.  Hopefully BG stays on the schedule and possibly Ryle although I don't think Ryle will be nearly as good as they have been in the last couple of years.  I would like to see them replace Central Hardin & Fern Creek on the schedule for sure.  I know Coach Cantwell put it on Listserv that CAL is looking for opponents in the 2027-28 cycle.  We'll see who potentially steps up.