5 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Point to ponder:

What are people's thoughts if this Friday LCA gets beat by Boyle County and Bowling Green loses to Owensboro?

Bowling Green would get downgraded but if LCA/Boyle game is close nothing would change with LCA.

After the this weeks game we will know if LCA is a contender or pretender. 

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

So you would put the three time defending 2A champion at #3 behind the teams they have beaten in the playoffs the last three years?

Yes just because those teams were all very even last year in my eyes. And the two that didn’t win it gained key players. I’m taking nothing away from Beechwood by saying that, I’m just saying in my eyes the other two teams are more talented than them and should be better. Preseason polls and early season polls are just as much about speculation as they are “what did you do last year?” To me at least.

52 minutes ago, theguru said:

Bowling Green would get downgraded but if LCA/Boyle game is close nothing would change with LCA.

No devaluation of the significance of LCA win over BG?

44 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

No devaluation of the significance of LCA win over BG?

It depends, maybe. 

Reading the posts in this thread, it looks to me like last year has no value. These top three teams did not turn over their whole roster. All three have a lot of returning starters. So why doesn't last year have any value?

9 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Reading the posts in this thread, it looks to me like last year has no value. These top three teams did not turn over their whole roster. All three have a lot of returning starters. So why doesn't last year have any value?

It does have value but Beechwood literally beat Mayfield by an extra point so they were basically even. Beechwood lost their best player. Mayfield did not and they gained one of the best players on this side of the state. LCA has an incredible QB going to UK and added the best RB in the state from last year. This year is not last year, point blank. To my point, Mayfield will lose 17 seniors after this season including their QB, both RBs, top 3 receivers, kicker, amongst others. They will be nowhere near the team next year that they are this year.

1 hour ago, Squirrel said:

It does have value but Beechwood literally beat Mayfield by an extra point so they were basically even. Beechwood lost their best player. Mayfield did not and they gained one of the best players on this side of the state. LCA has an incredible QB going to UK and added the best RB in the state from last year. This year is not last year, point blank. To my point, Mayfield will lose 17 seniors after this season including their QB, both RBs, top 3 receivers, kicker, amongst others. They will be nowhere near the team next year that they are this year.

Beechwood lost their best player in the regular season and beat Mayfield without him. All three teams return most of their best players from last year's playoffs. Mayfield beat LCA and Beechwood beat Mayfield with most of the same players that are playing this year. That is why those playoff games should carry a lot of weight right now in the rankings. If I were a Mayfield fan I would be irritated that LCA is ahead of Mayfield. One opening week win is not a reason to jump LCA over them. LCA should be #3. 

49 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Beechwood lost their best player in the regular season and beat Mayfield without him. All three teams return most of their best players from last year's playoffs. Mayfield beat LCA and Beechwood beat Mayfield with most of the same players that are playing this year. That is why those playoff games should carry a lot of weight right now in the rankings. If I were a Mayfield fan I would be irritated that LCA is ahead of Mayfield. One opening week win is not a reason to jump LCA over them. LCA should be #3. 

I was talking about the athlete they had going to wake forest. Nobody else on that field was going to a power 5 school. To each train of thought their own though. All I’m saying is if Mayfield wins the championship this year they should not be ranked number one next year with how much they lose. Teams differ from year to year. Should Bullitt East have been ranked number 1 in 6A to start the season. Not a chance.

14 hours ago, Cobraxx said:

After the this weeks game we will know if LCA is a contender or pretender. 

To be fair, I am not sure how much a loss to Boyle says about LCA.

I don't see a team outside of the best in 6A that I would expect to beat Boyle head to head right now.

If LCA beats Boyle, then watch out... if LCA plays Boyle close then watch out... but if Boyle beats LCA, even by a substantial margin, I don't necessarily think it means LCA is a pretender.

9 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Beechwood lost their best player in the regular season and beat Mayfield without him. All three teams return most of their best players from last year's playoffs. Mayfield beat LCA and Beechwood beat Mayfield with most of the same players that are playing this year. That is why those playoff games should carry a lot of weight right now in the rankings. If I were a Mayfield fan I would be irritated that LCA is ahead of Mayfield. One opening week win is not a reason to jump LCA over them. LCA should be #3. 

To be fair Mayfield lost a good player last year also.  Beechwood was slightly better than Mayfield last year.

8 hours ago, Squirrel said:

I was talking about the athlete they had going to wake forest. Nobody else on that field was going to a power 5 school. To each train of thought their own though. All I’m saying is if Mayfield wins the championship this year they should not be ranked number one next year with how much they lose. Teams differ from year to year. Should Bullitt East have been ranked number 1 in 6A to start the season. Not a chance.

And I am pretty sure VOR is talking about Mitchell Berger. The previous season, Mayfield could not stop him. The 2 seasons before that he played key roles in beating the 2 best teams of all time in LCA 2020 and LCA 2021. Pretty sure he could play at a high of level in college football (and is playing big time baseball).

 

Robinson obviously was very good ... but Berger was the best player on the field for Beechwood last year. 

33 minutes ago, gbballfan21 said:

And I am pretty sure VOR is talking about Mitchell Berger. The previous season, Mayfield could not stop him. The 2 seasons before that he played key roles in beating the 2 best teams of all time in LCA 2020 and LCA 2021. Pretty sure he could play at a high of level in college football (and is playing big time baseball).

 

Robinson obviously was very good ... but Berger was the best player on the field for Beechwood last year. 

Well, two best teams of all time till this year. It now appears LCA 2023 is the best team of all time.

44 minutes ago, gbballfan21 said:

And I am pretty sure VOR is talking about Mitchell Berger. The previous season, Mayfield could not stop him. The 2 seasons before that he played key roles in beating the 2 best teams of all time in LCA 2020 and LCA 2021. Pretty sure he could play at a high of level in college football (and is playing big time baseball).

 

Robinson obviously was very good ... but Berger was the best player on the field for Beechwood last year. 

I think Mitchell Berger would have been Mr. Football if he played the whole season. Beechwood winning 2A without him was more than I expected. 

2 hours ago, gbballfan21 said:

And I am pretty sure VOR is talking about Mitchell Berger. The previous season, Mayfield could not stop him. The 2 seasons before that he played key roles in beating the 2 best teams of all time in LCA 2020 and LCA 2021. Pretty sure he could play at a high of level in college football (and is playing big time baseball).

 

Robinson obviously was very good ... but Berger was the best player on the field for Beechwood last year. 

I know who he was talking about. But the kid didn’t play in the playoffs last year and he’s not on the team this year so he doesn’t even belong in this conversation unless he is trying to make the point that beechwood would’ve beat mayfield by more last year if they had him and that very well might be true. With that being said, Berger was a heck of a player and yes he absolutely terrorized Mayfield 2 years ago. All I’m saying is ALOT of people look at potential when ranking teams early in the season. Just look at the New York Jets. They’ve been awful for several years and now everyone is all over them because of who they added. To each their own though. I do enjoy going back and forth on these forums. Makes the week fun leading up to Fridays.