Just now, Adrian Woj Burner said:

The weekend. That includes the game right?

Yes. But the weekend has expanded so much and we are able to watch silly things like the G-League game.

1 minute ago, bugatti said:

Yes. But the weekend has expanded so much and we are able to watch silly things like the G-League game.

LOL. To be quite honest, I love what they have done with the weekend. They seemed to have made it more enjoyable and a better "rest" for the players. I also LOVE the new all-star game format, especially drafting right before the game. 

I watched some/the end of the Celtics victory over the Pacers last night, it was good basketball. 

On 2/21/2023 at 3:23 PM, TheDeuce said:

Should major league pitchers play every day?

No, but they should be able to throw more than 100 pitches or 5 innings in a game.

My biggest issue with "Load Management" is the lack of respect for the fans.

A kid grows up a huge fan of LeBron, Steph or whoever. For Christmas his parents break the bank and get him tickets to take the family to see his favorite player on their only visit to Indianapolis of the year that January. The kid is pumped to see his all-time favorite player for the first time in his life and he's sitting in street clothes at the end of the bench resting tonight.

A lot of the old timers from the 80's and 90's have said the biggest reason they didn't take nights off was because every night there were fans at home and on the road that were there to see them for the first and maybe only time ever.

Someone said that players don't get anything out of the regular season, yeah they are getting millions of dollars to play those games.

I basically quit watching a long time ago because of the way the games are called. It is now, IMO, more like the WWE than basketball.

They lost me after Malice at the Palace.

Games are also too hard to find.   When I was growing up, it was Tuesday and Thursday on TBS and Saturday and/or Sunday on CBS.   Now it's TBS, or maybe TNT, or ABC, or maybe ESPN or ESPN2 or Ballys if you want to watch only the Cavaliers.  Running into the same problem as baseball.  If you want people to watch, make it easy for them to find it and watch it.

11 hours ago, The Raven said:

They lost me after Malice at the Palace.

Games are also too hard to find.   When I was growing up, it was Tuesday and Thursday on TBS and Saturday and/or Sunday on CBS.   Now it's TBS, or maybe TNT, or ABC, or maybe ESPN or ESPN2 or Ballys if you want to watch only the Cavaliers.  Running into the same problem as baseball.  If you want people to watch, make it easy for them to find it and watch it.

No NBA games are played on TBS or ESPN2. TNT has games on at 730 and 10 every Tuesday and Thursday.  ESPN has the same times for Wednesday and Fridays.  ABC has the Saturday night games at 830 and now Sunday games at 1 and 330.  It's been this way for a few years I believe.

If you can't find NBA games on TV, you aren't trying. 

1 minute ago, TheDeuce said:

If you can't find NBA games on TV, you aren't trying. 

I have an extra sports package but either way there is always plenty of games to watch.

6 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

If you can't find NBA games on TV, you aren't trying. 

I'll openly admit I'm not trying.   I've seen maybe 1 NBA game in the last 15 years.   

On 2/24/2023 at 6:07 PM, Jumper_Dad said:

My biggest issue with "Load Management" is the lack of respect for the fans.

A kid grows up a huge fan of LeBron, Steph or whoever. For Christmas his parents break the bank and get him tickets to take the family to see his favorite player on their only visit to Indianapolis of the year that January. The kid is pumped to see his all-time favorite player for the first time in his life and he's sitting in street clothes at the end of the bench resting tonight.

A lot of the old timers from the 80's and 90's have said the biggest reason they didn't take nights off was because every night there were fans at home and on the road that were there to see them for the first and maybe only time ever.

Someone said that players don't get anything out of the regular season, yeah they are getting millions of dollars to play those games.

THIS!!!! 
Personally, I grew up as a huge Lebron fan (yeah, I'm a young gun get over it) and I was watching every game that I possibly could of him on TV. The year after they won their first ring in Miami, I was given tickets to go watch them play in Indianapolis. This was really before "load management" was really a thing, but I could not imagine how sad I would have been had he not played in that game. 

Since then, I have been to many NBA games, and if you haven't I highly recommend you go (whether you like it or not, it is unreal to watch in person). Luckily, I have had the opportunity to watch many of today's stars in person, and I have yet to been plagued with the "load management" bug while attending a game. 

Charles Barkley did an interview a few days ago on former NBA shooting guard JJ Redick's podcast The Old Man & the Three, and he covered this perfectly. He has the exact same complaints that us casuals do, and also made one phenomenal point in it. Barkley said, "Steel mill workers don't just take a day off if they're scheduled to work because they are tired... they get up and go do it and push right through the pain. And those steel mill workers make nothing compared to what these guys are making today in the NBA." Growing up around many people that have worked in these factories, it really hit close to home. 

He also went on to talk about the NBA pay, and said that after their next media deal which is coming up in the next couple years I believe, that guys will be making close to $50 million a year. It is unreal how far the game has come in terms of their market. 

Redick's podcast also does a great job at getting the "casual viewer" to really understand the game. Today you will hear many middle-age people claim that "it is soft, there isn't as much physicality", and he really breaks down the game and shows ways around this. He also interviews many active players, and shows some great behind the scenes of the game. I listen to every episode he releases, and high recommend anyone checking it out if you never have!

9 hours ago, The Raven said:

I'll openly admit I'm not trying.   I've seen maybe 1 NBA game in the last 15 years.   

Then how can you claim that the NBA is running into the same problems as baseball? You said "If you want people to watch, make it easy for them to find it and watch it." Well it is easy to find it and watch it but you admit to not even trying.  

I'm not sure what evidence we have that "load managing" is leading to success on the court, as in leading to titles. I suppose you could argue Kawhi Leonard for his one year in Toronto? For one, they were not winning it all if KD and Klay do not go down. Secondly, he was joining a loaded team in what was an easier conference (Giannis and Embiid were not yet seasoned playoff performers, LeBron was in LA). And his load managing was in large part because he was a one year rental before going to the Clippers. At that, Leonard still played 60 games. He may not reach 50 games this year.

A lot of the old guys are frustrated because the "sacrifices" they made to play is what paved the way for this abuse of the system.