Solution 1:

Take the top 2 seeds from each district.

Solution 2: 

Take the top 3 seeds from each district.  1 gets a Bye, 2 and 3 play.  I don't like the idea of one team getting a bye, though.  Because you might have the 1 play the 4, and the 1 seed can make a thousands of dollars on the admission/concessions.

Solution 3: 

Take the top two seeds from each district.  3 and 4 seeds will be eliminated from the playoffs.  However, allow them to play in a "bowl" type game against another team in the state that is also eliminated from the playoffs. 

 

Solution 4:

Cut back from 6 classes to 3 or 4 (they never should have gone to 6 in the first place.).   Fuller districts keeps winless or 1 win teams from making the playoffs simply because it's a 4 team district.

4 minutes ago, The Raven said:

Solution 4:

Cut back from 6 classes to 3 or 4 (they never should have gone to 6 in the first place.).   Fuller districts keeps winless or 1 win teams from making the playoffs simply because it's a 4 team district.

Was the motivation to go to 6 classes more to increase the number of champions giving more teams a shot or to get as many teams in playoffs as they could?

17 minutes ago, Killowatt59 said:

Was the motivation to go to 6 classes more to increase the number of champions giving more teams a shot or to get as many teams in playoffs as they could?

No idea what the motivation was, but what they got is bad first round football.

4 minutes ago, The Raven said:

No idea what the motivation was, but what they got is bad first round football.

Well that’s absolutely true.

1 hour ago, brooksville said:

Solution 1:

Take the top 2 seeds from each district.

Solution 2: 

Take the top 3 seeds from each district.  1 gets a Bye, 2 and 3 play.  I don't like the idea of one team getting a bye, though.  Because you might have the 1 play the 4, and the 1 seed can make a thousands of dollars on the admission/concessions.

Solution 3: 

Take the top two seeds from each district.  3 and 4 seeds will be eliminated from the playoffs.  However, allow them to play in a "bowl" type game against another team in the state that is also eliminated from the playoffs. 

 

 

1 hour ago, The Raven said:

Solution 4:

Cut back from 6 classes to 3 or 4 (they never should have gone to 6 in the first place.).   Fuller districts keeps winless or 1 win teams from making the playoffs simply because it's a 4 team district.

 

1 hour ago, Killowatt59 said:

Was the motivation to go to 6 classes more to increase the number of champions giving more teams a shot or to get as many teams in playoffs as they could?

I ask each of you - what problem are you trying to fix?

First round playoff games that are running clock before half.

45 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

 

 

I ask each of you - what problem are you trying to fix?

I'd like to see more competitive games in the first round. That way these kids don’t go into so many first round games with no hope and the higher seeds don’t have to worry about injuries in a meaningless game. Also the home team can actually lose money on a first round game too.

There are two pretty easy options to fix it. It’s just hard to get everyone to agree on which option. 

I think 4 classes was not enough, and 6 classes is too many.  So let's go with 5.  But that seems to bother people because it is not an even number lol. 

14 hours ago, The Raven said:

First round playoff games that are running clock before half.

 I will do a deeper dive on this when I have time. A quick look says about 1/3 of the games in round one in all classes had a running clock. I can't see how many of those may have been running clock in the 1st half.  When I dig in deeper, I will also look to see how many of those running clock games were a one seed versus a 4 seed.

 Here is some additional information to consider. The last week of the regular season where every team gets to choose who they play against, about 20% of the games were running clock games. 

6 hours ago, brooksville said:

I think 4 classes was not enough, and 6 classes is too many.  So let's go with 5.  But that seems to bother people because it is not an even number lol. 

The 4 classes was perfect. But, unfortunately not everyone got a ribbon. Too many thought it was unfair little Jim Bob played all those years and never got his chance to experience post season football. That’s how I thought we arrived at 6 classes. 

Now he gets to say he made the playoffs when he was in school. He can tell stories how he once played at Trinity, Male, Highlands, Beechwood, St. X, etc. He just leaves out they were 1-9 and got running clocked with time still left in the 1st qtr. 

52 minutes ago, Royal Blue said:

The 4 classes was perfect. But, unfortunately not everyone got a ribbon. Too many thought it was unfair little Jim Bob played all those years and never got his chance to experience post season football. That’s how I thought we arrived at 6 classes. 

Now he gets to say he made the playoffs when he was in school. He can tell stories how he once played at Trinity, Male, Highlands, Beechwood, St. X, etc. He just leaves out they were 1-9 and got running clocked with time still left in the 1st qtr. 

We got six classes because of Class 1A and Class 4A.  The ultra-small schools felt they couldn't compete with the top two tiers of the class and just about all of Class 4A was upset that St. X and Trinity dominated the class.  There was such an outcry and movement to separate the private schools and the public schools that the KHSAA went to six classes to hush the crowd about the public/private argument, even thought the real public/private debate was only concerning Trinity and St. X.  There even used to be an "at-large" State Champion for Class 4A that was the best from outside Louisville, then that "Champion" would play the Louisville big school champion, but got to claim a State Championship no matter what happened in the game with the Louisville school. 

Then, of course there was the argument the Independent schools should be included with the private, because many more independent schools won state championships in football than county schools; ie:  Beechwood, Highlands, Danville, Mayfield, Pikeville, ect. 

 

18 hours ago, The Raven said:

First round playoff games that are running clock before half.

The 3rd and 4th rounds last year had several running clocks. Maybe we should eliminate everything except the finals.

20 hours ago, Killowatt59 said:

Was the motivation to go to 6 classes more to increase the number of champions giving more teams a shot or to get as many teams in playoffs as they could?

When Kentucky went to six classes I think one motivation was to close the attendance gap from the largest school in each class to the smallest in each class.

I broke this down several years ago. The attendance range in each class is similar to other states. The issue comes in that Kentucky doesn't have as many schools playing football as comparable states. If classes are reduced to 5 or 4, then the biggest schools in each class will be significantly bigger than the smallest school in each class.

6 minutes ago, Jumper_Dad said:

When Kentucky went to six classes I think one motivation was to close the attendance gap from the largest school in each class to the smallest in each class.

I broke this down several years ago. The attendance range in each class is similar to other states. The issue comes in that Kentucky doesn't have as many schools playing football as comparable states. If classes are reduced to 5 or 4, then the biggest schools in each class will be significantly bigger than the smallest school in each class.

How does the largest schools compare to the smallest schools in basketball? 

 

The fine print:  This is normally where people start saying that football is different because the more students you have, the more opportunity you have to have great talent.  Which is horse crap.